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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2016 17:58:30 GMT 12
Here is it, the draw for the 2016 ENZED Superstock Teams Champs to be held at Arena Manawatu this coming Saturday and Sunday nights.
After the controversy of the 2015 draw when the Panthers, the Mustangs and the Tigers all drew each other in the same group, the 2016 version has a much more balanced look to it overall although there's still some top Night 1 match-ups; Tigers vs Mustangs to start the night, Wildcats vs Busters next, then later Hawkeyes vs Panthers, Giants vs Wildcats, Busters vs Giants and Warriors vs Team GB all look very even contests on paper. Plus they'll no doubt be some upsets as well. See, that's the thing with random draws, some years line-ups such as last year's Panthers/Mustangs/Tigers group are going to happen, especially after a year of upsets like in 2014 when teams like the Panthers and the Tigers ended up in the non-seeded side of the draw for the following year.
2016 Palmerston North Teams Draw; 6th/7th February (12 Teams)
1 Nelson Tigers vs Manawatu Mustangs
2 Wellington Wildcats vs Baypark Busters
3 Stratford Scrappers vs Wanganui Warriors
4 Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes vs Palmerston North Panthers
5 Rotorua Rebels vs Nelson Tigers
6 Gisborne Giants vs Wellington Wildcats
7 Great Britian Lions vs Stratford Scrappers
8 Canterbury Glen Eagles vs Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes
9 Manawatu Mustangs vs Rotorua Rebels
10 Baypark Busters vs Gisborne Giants
11 Wanganui Warriors vs Great Britain Lions
12 Palmerston North Panthers vs Canterbury Glen Eagles
As in previous seasons, the top 4 teams from last year's event head up one of the 4 groups each, for 2016 they being the Panthers, the Warriors, the Busters (who raced last year as the Brawlers) and the Mustangs. The other 8 teams are randomly drawn underneath them, the number between 5-12 that they draw determining both their group and the race order.
GROUP A
Manawatu Mustangs
Rotorua Rebels
Nelson Tigers
GROUP B
Baypark Busters
Gisborne Giants
Wellington Wildcats
GROUP C
Wanganui Warriors
Great Britain Lions
Stratford Scrappers
GROUP D
Palmerston North Panthers
Canterbury Glen Eagles
Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes
Let the debate commence.........
Barry B
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Post by kiatoa on Feb 1, 2016 18:07:52 GMT 12
Here is it, the draw for the 2016 ENZED Superstock Teams Champs to be held at Arena Manawatu this coming Saturday and Sunday night. After the controversy of the 2015 draw when the Panthers, the Mustangs and the Tigers all drew each other in the same group, the 2016 version has a much more balanced look to it overall although there's still some top Night 1 match-ups; Tigers vs Mustangs to start the night, Wildcats vs Busters next, then late Hawkeyes vs Panthers, Giants vs Wildcats, Busters vs Giants and Warriors vs Team GB all look very even contests on paper. Plus they'll no doubt be some upsets as well. See, that's the thing with random draws, some years line-ups such as last year's Panthers/Mustangs/Tigers group are going to happen, especially after a year of upsets like in 2014 when teams like the Panthers and the Tigers ended up in the non-seeded side of the draw for the following year. 2016 Palmerston North Teams Draw; 6th/7th February (12 Teams) 1 Nelson Tigers vs Manawatu Mustangs 2 Wellington Wildcats vs Baypark Busters 3 Stratford Scrappers vs Wanganui Warriors 4 Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes vs Palmerston North Panthers 5 Rotorua Rebels vs Nelson Tigers 6 Gisborne Giants vs Wellington Wildcats 7 Great Britian Lions vs Stratford Scrappers 8 Canterbury Glen Eagles vs Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes 9 Manawatu Mustangs vs Rotorua Rebels 10 Baypark Busters vs Gisborne Giants 11 Wanganui Warriors vs Great Britain Lions 12 Palmerston North Panthers vs Canterbury Glen Eagles
As in previous seasons, the top 4 teams from last year's event head up one of the 4 groups each, for 2016 they being the Panthers, the Warriors, the Busters (who raced last year as the Brawlers) and the Mustangs. The other 8 teams are randomly drawn underneath them, the number between 5-12 that they draw determining both their group and the race order. GROUP A Manawatu Mustangs Rotorua Rebels Nelson Tigers GROUP B Baypark Busters Gisborne Giants Wellington Wildcats GROUP C Wanganui Warriors Great Britain Lions Stratford Scrappers GROUP D Palmerston North Panthers Canterbury Glen Eagles Hawke's Bay Hawkeyes Let the debate commence......... Barry B Hey Barry is Semi's A v D ,B V C? Just thinking ahead!!! Cheers |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 1, 2016 18:13:10 GMT 12
semis. what groups cross over? A and B, C and D?? A and D could see Panthers vs Mustangs or Nelson in semi. When and where was the draw done?  |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2016 18:19:05 GMT 12
A vs D, B vs C.
Barry B
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Post by Tony on Feb 1, 2016 18:34:31 GMT 12
semis. what groups cross over? A and B, C and D?? A and D could see Panthers vs Mustangs or Nelson in semi. When and where was the draw done? In Bruce Robertson's office six months ago  |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2016 18:49:52 GMT 12
semis. what groups cross over? A and B, C and D?? A and D could see Panthers vs Mustangs or Nelson in semi. When and where was the draw done? In Bruce Robertson's office six months ago Haha. It was done today, overseen by myself as it has been for quite a number of years now. Even though we no longer have access to LiveSPORT radio where we used to do the draw live on air - and Bruce used to listen in like everybody else to see who was going to race who at his own meeting - it's basically still done exactly the same way now as what it was when I first got involved. We actually did it on the infield at WP a couple of years ago too, but I wasn't available on Sunday night due to being out of Auckland. |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 1, 2016 20:17:41 GMT 12
So thats when. And where??
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Post by The Observer on Feb 1, 2016 20:34:21 GMT 12
In Bruce Robertson's office six months ago Haha. It was done today, overseen by myself as it has been for quite a number of years now. Even though we no longer have access to LiveSPORT radio where we used to do the draw live on air - and Bruce used to listen in like everybody else to see who was going to race who at his own meeting - it's basically still done exactly the same way now as what it was when I first got involved. We actually did it on the infield at WP a couple of years ago too, but I wasn't available on Sunday night due to being out of Auckland. I've always wondered how the race draw was done ie how the panthers so often get race 4 and race 12. Not only do they have the home court advantage but they get the biggest break to repair cars between races. ConsistNtly. Interesting draw however |
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Post by Tony on Feb 1, 2016 20:36:22 GMT 12
Haha. It was done today, overseen by myself as it has been for quite a number of years now. Even though we no longer have access to LiveSPORT radio where we used to do the draw live on air - and Bruce used to listen in like everybody else to see who was going to race who at his own meeting - it's basically still done exactly the same way now as what it was when I first got involved. We actually did it on the infield at WP a couple of years ago too, but I wasn't available on Sunday night due to being out of Auckland. I've always wondered how the race draw was done ie how the panthers so often get race 4 and race 12. Not only do they have the home court advantage but they get the biggest break to repair cars between races. ConsistNtly. Interesting draw however The four seeded teams always get the first and last races in their groups, and the long break between races. It's the one reward they enjoy for having been in the top four the previous year. If that's something the Panthers get consistently, it's probably because they are consistently in the top four  |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 1, 2016 20:47:14 GMT 12
If semis are A v D and B v C then Giants and Mustangs avoid each other all weekend no matter results.  . Unless cars ar win consolation races 2nd night |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2016 20:47:55 GMT 12
Haha. It was done today, overseen by myself as it has been for quite a number of years now. Even though we no longer have access to LiveSPORT radio where we used to do the draw live on air - and Bruce used to listen in like everybody else to see who was going to race who at his own meeting - it's basically still done exactly the same way now as what it was when I first got involved. We actually did it on the infield at WP a couple of years ago too, but I wasn't available on Sunday night due to being out of Auckland. I've always wondered how the race draw was done ie how the panthers so often get race 4 and race 12. Not only do they have the home court advantage but they get the biggest break to repair cars between races. ConsistNtly. Interesting draw however The top 4 from one year get the 8 race breaks the next year. The other 8 teams get 4 race breaks. There is no way of making the breaks even for everybody. The previous year's winner always gets races 4 and 12 the following year. The Panthers, as regular winners, do get those two races regularly, yes. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2016 20:51:57 GMT 12
If semis are A v D and B v C then Giants and Mustangs avoid each other all weekend no matter results. . Unless cars ar win consolation races 2nd night How do you figure that? If they both win their group then win their Semi, wouldn't they meet in the Final? |
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Post by kiatoa on Feb 1, 2016 20:57:45 GMT 12
Haha. It was done today, overseen by myself as it has been for quite a number of years now. Even though we no longer have access to LiveSPORT radio where we used to do the draw live on air - and Bruce used to listen in like everybody else to see who was going to race who at his own meeting - it's basically still done exactly the same way now as what it was when I first got involved. We actually did it on the infield at WP a couple of years ago too, but I wasn't available on Sunday night due to being out of Auckland. I've always wondered how the race draw was done ie how the panthers so often get race 4 and race 12. Not only do they have the home court advantage but they get the biggest break to repair cars between races. ConsistNtly. Interesting draw however or the least amount of time to get cars ready from day 1 to 2? |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 1, 2016 20:59:55 GMT 12
Oh true true. Oversight on my behalf. So WHERE was the draw carried out BarryB?
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Post by kiatoa on Feb 1, 2016 21:02:48 GMT 12
Oh true true. Oversight on my behalf. So WHERE was the draw carried out BarryB? Sounds like you dont think your team can win Highway.... sad for you. shouldnt matter who they draw if they are good enough |
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Post by percy on Feb 1, 2016 21:08:11 GMT 12
No wonder Keven Roberts pulled out of the Glen Eagles. I 'd probably pull out as well if I was drawn against the Panthers and Hawkeyes!!  |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 1, 2016 21:13:10 GMT 12
Oh true true. Oversight on my behalf. So WHERE was the draw carried out BarryB? Sounds like you dont think your team can win Highway.... sad for you. shouldnt matter who they draw if they are good enough Or maybe i think 'my' team, among others can win and hence the much anticipated showdown between Mustangs and Giants might not happen |
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 1, 2016 21:42:43 GMT 12
Darn it. My two teams in the same group. Well actually I have three teams. Baypark, Gisborne, and any team that races Palmy. Haha.
Negatives - My teams in the same group.
Positives - 66.6% chance of one of my teams making it to the semi finals.
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Post by Wildcat on Feb 1, 2016 21:43:20 GMT 12
semis. what groups cross over? A and B, C and D?? A and D could see Panthers vs Mustangs or Nelson in semi. When and where was the draw done? In Bruce Robertson's office six months ago Looking at the draw Id say ya spot on |
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Post by m8sr8z on Feb 1, 2016 22:05:31 GMT 12
Darn it. My two teams in the same group. Well actually I have three teams. Baypark, Gisborne, and any team that races Palmy. Haha. Negatives - My teams in the same group. Positives - 66.6% chance of one of my teams making it to the semi finals. Could still get 1st and a 3rd |
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