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Post by spdwayorthehway on Feb 16, 2019 21:57:18 GMT 12
Yea is that not outside help
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 16, 2019 22:10:27 GMT 12
okay say you were a rotorua car finished and you put yourself in tylers way with the breaks on. and they hit you. cant get past. yellows are on. whats the ruling then. as you havnt hit or done anything after cheque. but you have finished the race then gone and had huge effect on resualts.
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Post by hienekenno1 on Feb 16, 2019 22:10:33 GMT 12
Congratulations to 33s Tyler Walker the new nz champ,sounds like it was a cool show in the end,I never doubted you Baypark Speedway lol.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 16, 2019 22:15:17 GMT 12
Congratulations to 33s Tyler Walker the new nz champ,sounds like it was a cool show in the end,I never doubted you Baypark Speedway lol. its okay to doubt them. they deserved it. but they also deserve the praise here. they nailed it. almost. should of been one repercharge and first across the line. but was epic should be proud of yourselfs. hope ypu get north island superstocks next. |
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Post by Go Slideways on Feb 16, 2019 23:11:02 GMT 12
Sounds like a good finals night, can’t wait for footage to emerge. Question should be should stock cars now be the number 1 contact class with superstock pretty much now only semi contact at 95% of events. Can’t wait for teams next weekend, I’ll be watching that online for sure Check out some Superstock races from Woodford Glen online. |
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Post by screaminV8 on Feb 17, 2019 0:31:14 GMT 12
Was certainly an action packed heat 3. There were cars blocking and hitting right from the start - 124s and 72s were on a mission from the get go.
2nz got thumped into the wall big time coming off 4, and destroyed front end.
8r took out 33s and 85m had a second shot. Looked like 33s was done until 72s gave him a push, then for some of the last few laps 33s, 32s and 72s
Were running together.
The biggest hit of all though was 513r absolutely nailed 66a who was out by the turn 3/4 wall on the last lap.come full speed off the end of the straight to get him!
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Post by The Observer on Feb 17, 2019 6:36:22 GMT 12
Good old petrolfumes
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Post by Gordon on Feb 17, 2019 7:43:18 GMT 12
Hats of to Baypark and all the drivers and team. What a night of action and points changing, great commentary - Barry and Mal trying their very best to keep us updated on points and action from the pits. Good size crowd considering how big the stand capacity is, I would say it might have been up there with the NZ Super Saloon and more than the NZ Saloons this year. Well worth the $30.
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Post by Higgins on Feb 17, 2019 8:10:28 GMT 12
As per Speedway NZ Facebook, Offical Results. 1NZ 33s Tyler Walker 2NZ 32s Mark Duthie 3NZ Run-Off between 188R Tony Gallacher and 186R Richard Keiser Is this the first time the new 1nz and 3nz = have finished heat 3 with holes in the block and after being pushed for the last 3 laps of the final by their respective teams cars? Awesome After looking at the post where you attached the heat three film what you refer to above is a little unclear. Nonetheless it does raise an interesting question, if 33S (or any car for that matter - 33s was just used as an example) was immobile and engine not running but still on the racing surface does shunting him around the track constitute "attacking" (albeit ineffectively) a stationery car? |
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Post by The Observer on Feb 17, 2019 10:18:15 GMT 12
Is this the first time the new 1nz and 3nz = have finished heat 3 with holes in the block and after being pushed for the last 3 laps of the final by their respective teams cars? Awesome After looking at the post where you attached the heat three film what you refer to above is a little unclear. Nonetheless it does raise an interesting question, if 33S (or any car for that matter - 33s was just used as an example) was immobile and engine not running but still on the racing surface does shunting him around the track constitute "attacking" (albeit ineffectively) a stationery car? Hey Higgins Don’t get me wrong - I think it’s awesome the ultimate show of selfless club racing and the passion to bring home the result. I first saw it in a teams racing video from 1983 when the panthers push started each other in their matching tanks. Frankly I’m surprised more superstocks teams don’t do it, as it appears lots of cars stall and after two laps the reds are thrown for them after everyone has driven past. And of course who can forget Darren Grey pushing Tony MAC to get 3nz in 1995. 9r Jordan Arapere did it for 2 or so laps to eventual 4th place getter tony Gallagher - who in interviews after the racing asked Sine if Tony O conmor could come down and repair the hole in his block for the run off. Bevan Phillips in 72s did it for 33s walker for about 3 laps, then suddenly somehow 33s started going again even with rocker covers ripped off and significant damage - in his interveiw he seemed absolutely stunned that the motor eventually started again, and frankly a little bit shocked at how much work they need to do for teams next week - a new engine, or just a top end?! Witcher way, I can’t wait for more video and incar footage the petrolfumes clip missed a heap of action that the online guys got - and both missed more, because there was so much |
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Post by Higgins on Feb 17, 2019 10:38:55 GMT 12
Just to clarify I see no problem in assisting any car by giving them a push start or at least trying to get them restarted, even if it takes nine laps. But if they are stationery are you not prohibited from touching them (other than accidentally) for fear of it being ruled "attacking"? In cases like the ones last night then you must be allowed to deal to, and DNF, the car getting the push even if it is obvious it will never be able to get going independently free of help again. Just what constitutes "attacking" and "stationery" looks like it might need to be clarified. I say that without actually looking at the rules that might cover hitting an obviously "dead (or possibly dead)" car with murderous intent.
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 17, 2019 11:38:21 GMT 12
A way better show last night on all levels. Track, points, and action
3/10 for night one for reasons detailed previously
7/10 for last night. Better track, although dusty from the start. ELS no-where near as bad, or they found an alternative, but points were given in an understandable version and at at time where there was minimal vehicle noise. Shame it was left up to the commentators to have to post on FB some way of recording points. After a bit of flack re the programme it would have been nice to get an insert for those that bought a programme for the second night. I apprecite the effort the commentary guys put in as you're job was definately harder than it should have been. Some other teams would have thrown their hands up and said sorry, we don't have points to give you, read the internet tomorrow.
10/10 3rd heat. Absolutely amazing, running and blocking. All the top points scorers got hit. Teamwork was amazing. Hits were huge, damage was extensive
Thanx to all the drivers that put on the show. Most would have had a heap of damage.
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Post by The Observer on Feb 17, 2019 12:37:06 GMT 12
Just to clarify I see no problem in assisting any car by giving them a push start or at least trying to get them restarted, even if it takes nine laps. But if they are stationery are you not prohibited from touching them (other than accidentally) for fear of it being ruled "attacking"? In cases like the ones last night then you must be allowed to deal to, and DNF, the car getting the push even if it is obvious it will never be able to get going independently free of help again. Just what constitutes "attacking" and "stationery" looks like it might need to be clarified. I say that without actually looking at the rules that might cover hitting an obviously "dead (or possibly dead)" car with murderous intent. I’m glad common sense prevailed, though I understand your post as I was hauled up to the stewards box after non title consultation race at the NZ champs in Blenheim for “hitting a stationary car” ie pushing a parked car. Thankfully after my explanation the referee on the day saw common sense. I think those interpretations above are ridiculous frankly as there is a significant difference between hitting a parked car and push starting another one. Any referee who can’t see that needs to take their home town town bias glasses off, or ditch their personal agendas as that’s the only why I can make sense of that logic |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2019 13:10:16 GMT 12
Taking everything to the letter of the law would of seen huge amounts of cars excluded over the weekend for various supposed infringements, but by sensibly applying the intent of the rules gave us a great spectacle we would have been robbed of had some of the posters here be a referee.
Barry B
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Post by tank11 on Feb 17, 2019 14:37:15 GMT 12
Hitting a stationary car, push starting a car and pushing a disabled car over the finish line are 3 totally different things.
All cars should start the race under their own power and finish likewise.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2019 15:23:53 GMT 12
Hitting a stationary car, push starting a car and pushing a disabled car over the finish line are 3 totally different things. All cars should start the race under their own power and finish likewise. It's the "using the concrete wall to advantage" I was worried about at times. On Night 1 it was the ONLY line for a time, but a pedantic official could of easily stepped in and ruined a great Night 2. I'm glad you enjoyed it Sonic33. |
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Post by gregobro on Feb 17, 2019 18:17:58 GMT 12
For a couple of minutes at the end of heat three I thought this guy had just won 1nz, I was trying to think of a more unexpected victory, it would have been amazing and totally deserved. The final podium was a great result although I think Tyler Walker was probably on many fans "best chances of winning" lists, but great to see some new faces break the big time.  |
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Post by spuddy on Feb 17, 2019 18:28:07 GMT 12
I se Wayne Hemi is going to hand over the red waka for the night to the new 1NZ
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 17, 2019 19:04:22 GMT 12
Was certainly an action packed heat 3. The biggest hit of all though was 513r absolutely nailed 66a who was out by the turn 3/4 wall on the last lap.come full speed off the end of the straight to get him! have to agree with you there screamin i thought throttle was jammed he went in that fast  |
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 17, 2019 19:26:52 GMT 12
Hitting a stationary car, push starting a car and pushing a disabled car over the finish line are 3 totally different things. All cars should start the race under their own power and finish likewise. there was also an infringement by 8r who put a cheap shot on 33s big time after 33s was taken to the wall by 85m and immobilized if 33s hadn,t been hit by THAT illegal hit he would not have needed to be pushed  |
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