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Post by Go Slideways on May 1, 2019 19:51:43 GMT 12
There always seems to be some discussion on the SNZ Awards so I just thought I'd put the link up to the nomination process so that nobody misses the opportunity to nominate the competitor, club, track, promotional item etc. that they want to. From SNZ site: "2019 Speedway New Zealand Awards The Speedway NZ Awards night will celebrate the 2018/19 season and the finest our sport has to offer at the Trusts Arena in Auckland on 20th July 2019 Tickets will go on sale closer to the event. Nominations are open! Anyone is eligible to nominate, you dont need to be an SNZ Member. Please click on the coloured buttons below to nominate per award. This will load a new page with a form to complete. Nominations close on 17th May 2019" Here is the link: www.speedway.co.nz/2019-AWARDS |
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Post by Go Slideways on May 19, 2019 17:28:38 GMT 12
Some portfolios for entries for the SNZ Photographer of the Year have been posted on facebook with some awesome shots. Brian Hopping  Graham Hughes  Joseph Johnson - Joe is a Visual Journalist at Stuff/The Press, he covers the War of the Wings Sprintcar Series, he also attended the finals night of NZ Superstocks   I'll post any more that come up |
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Post by Go Slideways on May 24, 2019 12:58:35 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:00:34 GMT 12
OK I'll say it and do it as diplomatically as I can...
With all due respect to the finalists, some of who are very deserving of their places and any gongs that come their way, but does the lack of discussion and generally low key responses to GSs thread mean that ppl are over the sham that the NZ Speedway awards have become, or is it still a thing?
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Post by BarryB on May 26, 2019 21:55:15 GMT 12
Macgors is notoriously quiet during the off season, and the Awards this year is several weeks later than normal. I feel having an annual awards ceremony helps legitimise the sport, just like having TAB betting does. But like anything in life, what you get back relates directly to what you put in. So if clubs don't consider their competitors (to use one example) worthy of nomination, then it's not just their loss. It's the sport's loss. It could always be better, however getting all of the right nominations to obtain the most deserving finalists (and thus deserving winners) has been something of a problem since the beginning. But instead of publicly labelling it a sham, perhaps you could do some work behind the scenes to make it better?
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Post by Go Slideways on May 27, 2019 16:53:06 GMT 12
There has been a lot of announcements made with great pride by many of the finalists on facebook about having been recognized and made the finals, and I think the standard this year is very high.
There has been plenty of opportunity to nominate entries through this post (read 2,000 times) on the SNZ site and untold shares on facebook so I think its been pretty open.
I don't think its a sham at all, good luck to the finalists and to the organizers at the new venue.
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Post by petrolfumes on May 27, 2019 17:44:03 GMT 12
I think what people are staying is that The nominations are not visible only the announced finalists :
Therefore a person could be nominated year in year out and still not get a look in :
The question would be who picks the finalists from the nominations then who picks the winner :
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Post by maw63 on May 27, 2019 18:56:48 GMT 12
I think what people are staying is that The nominations are not visible only the announced finalists : Therefore a person could be nominated year in year out and still not get a look in : The question would be who picks the finalists from the nominations then who picks the winner : That is what entered people would like to know,who is chosen by the board to make the finalists then whom has over the season provided the best entertainment to the public ,this is not just about being 1nz!!!!! |
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Post by hbhornets on May 27, 2019 19:31:14 GMT 12
ive given up on the awards. so the only person the drivers need to impress is me the fan. big wraps on anybody out there giving it heaps and having fun doing it. and special mention to sheldon arapere. winning both hawkes bay and bay of plenty champs in a stock. very impressive driver through traffic. very smart and clever racer. won a race for rotorua in huntly vs stromers. he had a stand out season. always enjoyed watching him. my driver of the season.
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Post by BarryB on May 27, 2019 20:46:49 GMT 12
The simple fact is that NOBODY gets to see all 2500 licenced competitors race during the course of a season once each, let alone multiple times. That's why the nominations are so important. It's not like a bunch of movies where a bunch of judges can watch all of said movies, or a sport where all of the major events are televised.
Some of the people on here only follow one or two classes and have no idea what's happening in the other dozen or so. Or only attend two or three tracks and have no idea what's going on at the other twenty. And still others find it easier to whinge than to offer anything by way of suggestion. Things will only improve if people put in more thought and/or effort.
And the old adage that "it's not just about being 1nz", holds no water for mine, as the 1nz is generally a driver that races all over the place, achieves a lot, and does a lot for the sport as well as gaining the 1nz. Rarely would a driver just pop up, win the NZ title then vanish again. But obviously wining the 1nz goes a fair way, and so it should. It's the ultimate goal for any serious competitor.
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Post by BarryB on May 27, 2019 21:02:21 GMT 12
I think what people are staying is that The nominations are not visible only the announced finalists : Therefore a person could be nominated year in year out and still not get a look in : The question would be who picks the finalists from the nominations then who picks the winner : I'd like to think that the most worthy nominations are the finalists each year fumey, and that names weren't getting put on the list just because they were nominated year in and year out. They're not giving out Participation Awards, which about all I won when I was at school haha. Or at High Scool I found I could win the Most Improved each year, by being real rubbish at the beginning of the school year and doing better as the year went on. Next year, same thing. I wasn't improving overall, but it gave me something to take home to mum and dad hahahahaha. I've also wondered why it really matters who picks the finalists and who picks the winners? Barry B |
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on May 27, 2019 21:36:24 GMT 12
I nominated but catorgory dropped due to lack of nominations
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 22:15:21 GMT 12
I nominated but catorgory dropped due to lack of nominations If true, that sounds like a sham yeah? |
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Post by jayt6 on May 28, 2019 2:39:38 GMT 12
Good luck to all that have entered nice to be acknowledged many of you give so much to the sport 👍🏽
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Post by petrolfumes on May 28, 2019 6:47:45 GMT 12
I think what people are staying is that The nominations are not visible only the announced finalists : Therefore a person could be nominated year in year out and still not get a look in : The question would be who picks the finalists from the nominations then who picks the winner : I'd like to think that the most worthy nominations are the finalists each year fumey, and that names weren't getting put on the list just because they were nominated year in and year out. They're not giving out Participation Awards, which about all I won when I was at school haha. Or at High Scool I found I could win the Most Improved each year, by being real rubbish at the beginning of the school year and doing better as the year went on. Next year, same thing. I wasn't improving overall, but it gave me something to take home to mum and dad hahahahaha. I've also wondered why it really matters who picks the finalists and who picks the winners? Barry B Barry : Yes the most worthy nominations should be but how do you know if there is no transparency : |
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Post by busterbell on May 28, 2019 16:12:33 GMT 12
It wouldn't be any sort of speedway event without some form of controversy.
It is what it is and while the nominee's and judges and their judging and stature remain anonymous it won't ever be treated as legitimate.
(Gee been so long since I was here I forgot my password.......)
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Post by Go Slideways on May 29, 2019 17:08:48 GMT 12
Some great pics from Photographer of The Year finalist Cameron Lee  |
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Post by SWP on Jun 17, 2019 7:35:28 GMT 12
I've also wondered why it really matters who picks the finalists and who picks the winners? Credibility Barry, the work not the person is being judged. |
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Post by BarryB on Jun 17, 2019 13:21:31 GMT 12
Credibility Barry, the work not the person is being judged. As a matter of interest, what do other sports in New Zealand do with their annual awards, judging wise, does anybody know? Barry B |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 13:29:16 GMT 12
Credibility Barry, the work not the person is being judged. As a matter of interest, what do other sports in New Zealand do with their annual awards, judging wise, does anybody know? Barry B Phil Taylor won a few awards, but a lot of ppl said he just threw a dart at the wall |
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