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Post by graemeh on Mar 11, 2020 15:57:10 GMT 12
It is fairly easy to spot the Joblin cars in a race due to the colour of their numbers so maybe that could be the simple solution. If for example the Hawke-eyes had yellow numbers would that have been sufficient to distinguish them from the Panthers? Teams advise the promotion of there livery and get given a list of colours they can use. Sometimes a black number on a black body ain't exactly helpful either. So tell me , if you are blocking in a teams race how do you have a look at the cars number when its coming up behind you ..  ? Was really only looking at it from a spectators point of view. If the drivers were concerned about colour schemes or identifying each other they have the ability to make rules accordingly. |
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Post by woodart on Mar 11, 2020 16:53:20 GMT 12
if you read up on the rugby debarcle over the weekend, part of the problem was the patterns used. big time graphic artists have moved on from lightning flashes to blind us, the latest is white pulses. highlanders had a bluey green with white pulses and sth african team had greeny blue with white pulses.designed by same company!absolute farce. was watching old teams races from 90s, team colours, easy to identify. talking about bumper colours or track i.d. or particular drivers numbers(many of us have lives) is a nonsense .if the spectators at the track, and at home arent important, stop charging premium admission(yeah right!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 18:36:07 GMT 12
if you read up on the rugby debarcle over the weekend, part of the problem was the patterns used. big time graphic artists have moved on from lightning flashes to blind us, the latest is white pulses. highlanders had a bluey green with white pulses and sth african team had greeny blue with white pulses.designed by same company!absolute farce. was watching old teams races from 90s, team colours, easy to identify. talking about bumper colours or track i.d. or particular drivers numbers(many of us have lives) is a nonsense .if the spectators at the track, and at home arent important, stop charging premium admission(yeah right!) You're right (suppose it has to happen sometime, about something hehehe) the cars of today have really "busy" body's this is just as applicable to their normal body as well as their team body. These busy graphic jobs look really cool in the daylight but are bloody hard to tell apart on the other side of a dark track. |
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Post by beachboy on Mar 11, 2020 19:42:05 GMT 12
It is fairly easy to spot the Joblin cars in a race due to the colour of their numbers so maybe that could be the simple solution. If for example the Hawke-eyes had yellow numbers would that have been sufficient to distinguish them from the Panthers? Teams advise the promotion of there livery and get given a list of colours they can use. Sometimes a black number on a black body ain't exactly helpful either. So tell me , if you are blocking in a teams race how do you have a look at the cars number when its coming up behind you .. ? But it's clearly not the drivers that have an issue with the colour clashes otherwise you would of seen them do something by now don't you think. |
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Post by daleh on Mar 11, 2020 20:14:01 GMT 12
qYou're right (suppose it has to happen sometime, about something hehehe) the cars of today have really "busy" body's this is just as applicable to their normal body as well as their team body. These busy graphic jobs look really cool in the daylight but are bloody hard to tell apart on the other side of a dark track. That is how you tell the general graphics designers or “kids playing” apart from the experienced guys at designing race cars graphics. It takes a lot more effort and understanding to make sure it always works with the various shadows and lighting colour temperature from afternoon to night, oh and at speed! Then also to consider how mud will sit; and what areas are “safe” for intricate detail or areas that will need constant repairs. |
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Post by midway on Mar 11, 2020 22:21:22 GMT 12
I thought the Todd & Pollock colour scheme was one of the best ,and the Nelson Tigers another ,far better image than the black and white or red circus you get today ,just keep it simple ,for Rammers to enjoy as he is so colour blind at the best of times ,he asks Beach boy spot the difference ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 23:19:10 GMT 12
I thought the Todd & Pollock colour scheme was one of the best ,and the Nelson Tigers another ,far better image than the black and white or red circus you get today ,just keep it simple ,for Rammers to enjoy as he is so colour blind at the best of times ,he asks Beach boy spot the difference ... thank you for your contribution Midwife |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 16:41:53 GMT 12
So tell me , if you are blocking in a teams race how do you have a look at the cars number when its coming up behind you .. ? But it's clearly not the drivers that have an issue with the colour clashes otherwise you would of seen them do something by now don't you think. Well if you are a spectator and dont know whos who in a teams race , you dont know jack about speedway. Put 4 Hawkeyes on the infield and 4 panthers cars and im sure you could workout whos racing for who. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 16:43:15 GMT 12
So tell me , if you are blocking in a teams race how do you have a look at the cars number when its coming up behind you .. ? Was really only looking at it from a spectators point of view. If the drivers were concerned about colour schemes or identifying each other they have the ability to make rules accordingly. You would have to be a bit green if you couldnt workout who were Hawkeyes and who were Panthers. |
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Post by tank11 on Mar 12, 2020 17:18:14 GMT 12
Was really only looking at it from a spectators point of view. If the drivers were concerned about colour schemes or identifying each other they have the ability to make rules accordingly. You would have to be a bit green if you couldnt workout who were Hawkeyes and who were Panthers. This what they were saying, about NEW people being confused why the black car was hitting the black car. After all 58p got a good hit on one of his own in Palmy? |
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Post by graemeh on Mar 12, 2020 19:25:35 GMT 12
Was really only looking at it from a spectators point of view. If the drivers were concerned about colour schemes or identifying each other they have the ability to make rules accordingly. You would have to be a bit green if you couldnt workout who were Hawkeyes and who were Panthers. Its for the benefit of "green" people either at the track or watching a stream of the event that most posters are suggesting any changes, not for those who are regulars and familiar with the teams. |
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Post by Roxcyford on Mar 12, 2020 19:34:19 GMT 12
i know of a team who have markers on the front of car to determine enemy or foe  |
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Post by stu24p on Mar 12, 2020 20:05:17 GMT 12
So tell me , if you are blocking in a teams race how do you have a look at the cars number when its coming up behind you .. ? But it's clearly not the drivers that have an issue with the colour clashes otherwise you would of seen them do something by now don't you think. Have you not noticed the flouro strips on the cars from time to time? For the blockers to determine friend or foe. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 20:35:40 GMT 12
You would have to be a bit green if you couldnt workout who were Hawkeyes and who were Panthers. This what they were saying, about NEW people being confused why the black car was hitting the black car. After all 58p got a good hit on one of his own in Palmy? Nelson Tigers had the best solution with flags on their wings .. For those who dint know who was who lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 20:41:21 GMT 12
Kinda beats me that people go to speedway , walk around the pits looking at the teams all in their separate areas .
Then theres a grand parade and announcement and introduction of all teams and drivers , and when called up for a teams race each team does their normal hot laps.
Yet people cant tell whos who when they are actually racing . Explain that one .
Oh i forgot . They more than likely buy a programme at the gate with nice glossy pictures of each team and car ...
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Post by BarryB on Mar 12, 2020 21:28:03 GMT 12
Kinda beats me that people go to speedway , walk around the pits looking at the teams all in their separate areas . Then theres a grand parade and announcement and introduction of all teams and drivers , and when called up for a teams race each team does their normal hot laps. Yet people cant tell whos who when they are actually racing . Explain that one . Oh i forgot . They more than likely buy a programme at the gate with nice glossy pictures of each team and car ... It's that sort of small-minded thinking that prevents us from making things better. Not everybody buys a programme. In fact, far more don't that do. And not everybody is watching at the track these days. Things can look quite different on a stream due to camera angle and the way the camera(s) flick around and switch from one camera to another. On the stream you watch what somebody else decides, not what you the spectator thinks are the cars to watch. The last thing Speedway needs, or ANY sport needs for that matter, is that you need to be a trainspotter to watch it, understand it and enjoy it. Such a piffling change could make it so much better, and better for more people, which, surely, has to be one of the aims? Barry B |
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Post by hbhornets on Mar 12, 2020 21:36:17 GMT 12
That maulers vs pumas race is unwatchable. I gave up. Dont think black vs black is an issue. I do think percy maybe on to something with the spray paint front and back side rails. Or even if every team must display provinces colours flags on cars. Just as a point of difference. It's really that easy.
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Post by beachboy on Mar 13, 2020 13:50:27 GMT 12
But it's clearly not the drivers that have an issue with the colour clashes otherwise you would of seen them do something by now don't you think. Well if you are a spectator and dont know whos who in a teams race , you dont know jack about speedway. Put 4 Hawkeyes on the infield and 4 panthers cars and im sure you could workout whos racing for who. so for the record you would have know issue introducing new spectators to the sport to watch the Palmy and Hawkesbay superstock and stockcar teams race each other using their current colours @highrevz |
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Post by beachboy on Mar 13, 2020 13:54:55 GMT 12
But it's clearly not the drivers that have an issue with the colour clashes otherwise you would of seen them do something by now don't you think. Have you not noticed the flouro strips on the cars from time to time? For the blockers to determine friend or foe. yup even the drivers have to add fluro because they can't tell the difference between the team colours at times. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 17:07:34 GMT 12
Well if you are a spectator and dont know whos who in a teams race , you dont know jack about speedway. Put 4 Hawkeyes on the infield and 4 panthers cars and im sure you could workout whos racing for who. so for the record you would have know issue introducing new spectators to the sport to watch the Palmy and Hawkesbay superstock and stockcar teams race each other using their current colours @highrevz I have taken heaps of newbys to speedway over the years , and explained how it all works .Cant recall anyone saying [ umm i dont understand ] Maybe i hang our with intelligent people unlike you Beach Crab. |
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