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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2021 17:19:02 GMT 12
They have just put on there facebook page , we been giving green light for go on Friday Theoretically, at least, that means they'll be racing without the Alleycats and without any Auckland fans. Barry B |
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Post by wildcatsfan on Feb 17, 2021 17:29:20 GMT 12
What Wellington has done is all legal and legit, if not within the spirit of the rules. The idea of the "one ring-in rule" was to help smaller clubs get across the line in forming a regional team to compete at the SNZ sanctioned event. Teams racing isn't for everyone, and at that stage most clubs were running six car meetings, either with 5 on track and 1 reserve, or in the case of Rotorua (where they ran a great format with 8 teams going through to Night 2) 4 cars on track with 2 reserves. We're now down to 5 car teams, and some clubs are appearing to be using the one ring-in rule as a compulsory rule with which to strengthen their team, not as the safety net that was intended. With a club the size of Wellington it's impossible to believe that there wasn't another Wellington driver prepared to represent the club, especially if offered a car to race. But instead of doing that, they've realistically made a mockery of the intent of the rules by roping in arguably the best Superstock teams racer going around at the moment. Nothing against any of those involved, but it's a move that won't enthuse a lot of people, opponents and race fans alike. Barry B By what was posted on Bookface last night (and deleted by their page admin as quick as it was going up) is that there is a few drives who did have their hands up to race but were over looked for Jayden, a list from the start of the season of about 10 drivers was posted as well showing who was in the team but keept been deleted by admin as well, if this is all true it could have repercutions in the future to come for the club/team. I just can't get my head around what the fuss is all about - haven't The Crushers roped in Sheldon Arapere? Isn't this a common practice, especially at Superstock Teams events too? Quit making mountains out of molehills, seems it's just an excuse to do some complaining. Take a look at the teams you support and ask yourself, Have they done it themselves in the past and therefore am I being a pot calling a kettle black? Because most clubs certainly have. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2021 17:40:26 GMT 12
By what was posted on Bookface last night (and deleted by their page admin as quick as it was going up) is that there is a few drives who did have their hands up to race but were over looked for Jayden, a list from the start of the season of about 10 drivers was posted as well showing who was in the team but keept been deleted by admin as well, if this is all true it could have repercutions in the future to come for the club/team. I just can't get my head around what the fuss is all about - haven't The Crushers roped in Sheldon Arapere? Isn't this a common practice, especially at Superstock Teams events too? Quit making mountains out of molehills, seems it's just an excuse to do some complaining. Take a look at the teams you support and ask yourself, Have they done it themselves in the past and therefore am I being a pot calling a kettle black? Because most clubs certainly have. Apples/Oranges wildcatsfan. Superstock teams events are all private promotions which have no such rules. The NZ Stockcar Teams Champs is a sanctioned SNZ event which, as such, does have set rules. The ring in rule was introduced to assist smaller clubs to be able to attract enough drivers to be able to lodge a challenge. You can defend the club you so obviously support all you like, but it doesn't take away that they have deviated from the original intent of the rule. All that's likely to happen here is that the rule will be changed at a future AGM to no ring ins, and smaller clubs and teams race fans will suffer as a result. Barry B |
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Post by Tony on Feb 17, 2021 17:43:10 GMT 12
Level One from tonight.. looks like we are going teams racing! Anyone know where scrutineering is taking place or is it just at the track? Theoretically Aucklanders still cannot attend as we're supposed to ("encouraged to" is the exact wording) carry our alert level with us even though we're free to travel between regions. So we're allowed to travel to Wellington, but supposed (encouraged) to avoid crowds of more than 100 people. Barry B You're only an Aucklander until you reach the top of the Bombay Hills Barry. Once you're on the Waikato side, you become a New Zealander, so when in NZ, do as the NZers do  |
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 17, 2021 17:45:35 GMT 12
Question.
What is the format for quilfying. What is the format for finals. Who is racing who. And are gisborne allow to compete when they clearly do not meet the criteria. Does snz get involed or other teams lodge a compaint. If that happens then we down to 10 teams? What is aucklands stance. Are there quarter finals? When can we expect this information to be released as we are two days out.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2021 17:48:38 GMT 12
Theoretically Aucklanders still cannot attend as we're supposed to ("encouraged to" is the exact wording) carry our alert level with us even though we're free to travel between regions. So we're allowed to travel to Wellington, but supposed (encouraged) to avoid crowds of more than 100 people. Barry B You're only an Aucklander until you reach the top of the Bombay Hills Barry. Once you're on the Waikato side, you become a New Zealander, so when in NZ, do as the NZers do Hahahahaha. Very good Tony. For years I lived in Pokeno. In the August Lockdown Pokeno was in New Zealand, but in this lockdown they've moved the border further south (to Mercer) so now Pokeno is part of Auckland. No longer is the top of the Bombay's the crossover point. I'm just wondering what happens if the Auckland cars and drivers due in Wellington and Christchurch this weekend all turn up, and somebody does the clubs in to the MoH? Barry B |
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Post by Tapped on Feb 17, 2021 18:11:09 GMT 12
You're only an Aucklander until you reach the top of the Bombay Hills Barry. Once you're on the Waikato side, you become a New Zealander, so when in NZ, do as the NZers do Hahahahaha. Very good Tony. For years I lived in Pokeno. In the August Lockdown Pokeno was in New Zealand, but in this lockdown they've moved the border further south (to Mercer) so now Pokeno is part of Auckland. No longer is the top of the Bombay's the crossover point. I'm just wondering what happens if the Auckland cars and drivers due in Wellington and Christchurch this weekend all turn up, and somebody does the clubs in to the MoH? Barry B just stop counting at 99 barry, you'll be alright. |
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Post by vatali on Feb 17, 2021 18:17:49 GMT 12
Not even going to pretend like I understood it all or was even paying full attention but if anyone wants to put themselves through re-listening to the PM today I swear she said something along the lines of Aucklanders can travel outside of the region so long as they are not close or casual contacts to the cluster and use common sense etc although she did say something about large gatherings shortly after so maybe I missed the bit where she said not to attend large gatherings. From what is being said on here, that obviously contradicts govt "recommendations" posted elsewhere but I'm 99% sure she said something along those lines.
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Post by vatali on Feb 17, 2021 18:41:58 GMT 12
Cancelled ferry sailings also get a mention after yesterday's winds I presume. Anyone heard if the Grizzles and Crushers still have their bookings ready to go.
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Post by broardside on Feb 17, 2021 19:15:29 GMT 12
What about Gissy, with all their ring ins are they still able to compete, and why? questions,questions, questions, lets just enjoy the teams racing that we have been lucky to have this weekend aye.
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Post by daz on Feb 17, 2021 19:23:27 GMT 12
What about Gissy, with all their ring ins are they still able to compete, and why? questions,questions, questions, lets just enjoy the teams racing that we have been lucky to have this weekend aye. I believe their ring-ins have contracted to Gisborne, someone correct me if I’m wrong I don’t see a problem with exploiting these rules, with ring-ins or changing clubs. whatever gets teams on track within the rules is all good in my view |
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Post by broardside on Feb 17, 2021 19:27:28 GMT 12
Yep the more teams the better i say.
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Post by Wildcat on Feb 17, 2021 20:30:05 GMT 12
Is Auckland a starter on the weekend ??
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Post by Stumo on Feb 17, 2021 20:45:39 GMT 12
Draw is being done on Welly Speedway facebook page Live on Thursday night...
Format...
4 groups of 3.
Top 4 from last year to top groups rest random draw.
Winner each group go Teir 1 Semi finals
Second each group Teir 2 Semi Finals
Third each group to consilations which is 3 heats, individual racing however your teams points are all added together towards overall placing/trophies etc
Semi finals are same as Superstock Teams...
Highest T2 Winner 3rd & 4th race
Lowest T2 Winner 5th & 6th race
Both T2 Losers 7th & 8th race
Highest T1 Loser 3rd & 4th race
Lowest T1 Loser 5th & 6th race
Both T1 winners to Final
Night 1 = 12 teams races
Night 2 = 8 teams races + consolations
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Post by roxcyford on Feb 17, 2021 20:52:02 GMT 12
aucklanders will have to seat in a designated area  . |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 17, 2021 20:54:33 GMT 12
aucklanders will have to seat in a designated area . With no more than 100 seats |
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Post by nottosure on Feb 17, 2021 21:26:21 GMT 12
It's pretty sad the Wellington team and club has taken the win at all cost attitude they have with their team selection and exploitation of the rules. The dreams of every other local driver wanting to teams race and represent their club in such a huge meeting must be shattered.
This type of title may only be raced locally every so often, as there's no guarantee it'll be won again to secure hosting rights. It obviously isn't like a normal National title and allocated on a rotation basis every 12-15 years or so and may only be achievable locally in some drivers racing career once or twice if at all.
Lets hope their selection criteria doesn't backfire and they can call on locals again when they're needed, as it would be fully understandable if those overlooked this time say no in the future.
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Post by Admin on Feb 17, 2021 23:04:14 GMT 12
Come on people, enough of the bickering about every aspect of everything. Try supporting your team instead. If I can find the energy I will chuck out a lot of posts from this thread .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 23:29:00 GMT 12
Draw is being done on Welly Speedway facebook page Live on Thursday night... Format... 4 groups of 3. Top 4 from last year to top groups rest random draw. Winner each group go Teir 1 Semi finals Second each group Teir 2 Semi Finals Third each group to consilations which is 3 heats, individual racing however your teams points are all added together towards overall placing/trophies etc Semi finals are same as Superstock Teams... Highest T2 Winner 3rd & 4th race Lowest T2 Winner 5th & 6th race Both T2 Losers 7th & 8th race Highest T1 Loser 3rd & 4th race Lowest T1 Loser 5th & 6th race Both T1 winners to Final Night 1 = 12 teams races Night 2 = 8 teams races + consolations REALLY? I suppose on the bright side they ain't doing the ridiculous 8 teams qualify but again we will prob see repeats of night 1 races on night two. SMH |
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Post by craige on Feb 18, 2021 5:01:27 GMT 12
aucklanders will have to seat in a designated area . With no more than 100 seats They now have a secured roped off area in the pits that no public can go into .. |
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