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Post by spuddy on Feb 24, 2021 5:54:29 GMT 12
Interesting read here from Mark Osborne /?d=n |
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Post by spuddy on Feb 24, 2021 5:57:21 GMT 12
Personally, I find the Quin and Dickson cars very ugly to look at, but very interesting to watch, and any move in a direction to ban them can’t be good for the sport. Innovation should be encouraged rather than driven away
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Post by tonyr on Feb 24, 2021 8:56:54 GMT 12
Interesting read. I would love to see what the argument is for changing the rules!
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Post by beachboy on Feb 24, 2021 9:25:31 GMT 12
4 bars ok, butt ugly cars like the Quinn machine not, How can anyone actually think something that looks like that is moving forward in the sport.
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Post by tonyr on Feb 24, 2021 9:32:24 GMT 12
4 bars ok, butt ugly cars like the Quinn machine not, How can anyone actually think something that looks like that is moving forward in the sport. Beachboy its motor racing, not a beauty pageant! |
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Post by tony68 on Feb 24, 2021 12:26:09 GMT 12
No such thing as ugly as everyone sees things differently. I say let the super classes progress bit keep the saloon and stockcar classes OEM,WHoops too late for tgat
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Feb 24, 2021 20:33:14 GMT 12
What is the purpose, intent?
Is it to attract more competitors, to gain more spectators?
Frankly, it seems to me they are goats amongst the sheep.
I'd like to see the latest SNZ numbers for all the classes today and compare over, say the last 10 years.
Like to compare spectator numbers around NZ, the trends.
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Post by midway on Feb 24, 2021 21:01:42 GMT 12
Well it is progressive and we need to seek change ,and it wont be long others will follow suit.
It is like the 6 pin hub episode it quietly extinguished it self ,mind you there was only one old Billy goat amongst the sheep ...
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Post by bikeboy on Feb 24, 2021 21:14:52 GMT 12
What is the purpose, intent? Is it to attract more competitors, to gain more spectators? Frankly, it seems to me they are goats amongst the sheep. I'd like to see the latest SNZ numbers for all the classes today and compare over, say the last 10 years. Like to compare spectator numbers around NZ, the trends. the last 5 years are listed in there (competitors), I hear they are up this year as well, don't think any of the promotors pubically list the crowd numbers, |
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Post by my2cents on Feb 25, 2021 9:30:02 GMT 12
4 bars ok, butt ugly cars like the Quinn machine not, How can anyone actually think something that looks like that is moving forward in the sport. I dont think the butt ugly look has anything to do with being 4 bar or torsion. As the "Look" is only the fiberglass body and some flash paint or stickers |
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Post by nakifans on Feb 25, 2021 17:42:34 GMT 12
Aren't late model saloons designated a class of their own, NZ regulation saloons as approved by SNZ are a separate class from late models.
The late model by their design and geometry take up more track space and can and have done, impede the SNZ cars.
Yes SNZ have approved the late models for our tracks but the issue is in reality you have two classes running as one.
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Post by midway on Feb 25, 2021 22:06:54 GMT 12
I think SNZ has adopted enough complicated issues without adding geometry to the list  Just imagine poor old Percy being elected as there geometrician we could look at the sport from different angles ...  |
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Post by steeldog on Feb 26, 2021 8:16:02 GMT 12
4 bars ok, butt ugly cars like the Quinn machine not, How can anyone actually think something that looks like that is moving forward in the sport. I think that what people said when the first hypermacs came out |
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Post by ifyouknowyouknow on Mar 1, 2021 14:38:53 GMT 12
Limiting the travel allowed with a 4 bar set up or completely ruleing it out should be at the bottom of SNZ rules to change.
If they want the class to grow and become more affordable they need to change the engine rules to allow a larger degree of heads. Currently, the cars have to run 23 degree heads which is becoming more and more harder and expensive to source from America.
As well as the engine set back rule. If they allow the engine to move back 6 inches then competitors can pick up a chassis from America for 1/3 of the price of building a new chassis in NZ.
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Post by spuddy on Mar 20, 2021 7:36:31 GMT 12
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Post by TonyT on Mar 20, 2021 8:40:58 GMT 12
Until the day arrives when we regularly see similarly sized fields of super saloons to super stocks, then we don't have the regulations for the class right.
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Post by daleh on Mar 20, 2021 12:41:36 GMT 12
Reading the three basic proposals it just seems like a chassis builder is upset... Will be interesting to see if SNZ directors bow to a vested interest.
Quite confident every car out there could be switched to some extent; the difficulty is the knowledge to how the system actually works..
That lack of knowledge probably scares incumbents and old timers.
Do understand if been raised about driving standards; but that is related to one particular driver.
(Thou apparently is always everyone else's fault or the track...)
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Post by spuddy on Mar 21, 2021 8:13:10 GMT 12
Saw footage of the 3rd heat last night, 1NZ destroyed the field, opened up half a lap between each caution
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 21, 2021 8:24:04 GMT 12
The late model type cars are set up to go around the corner fast, there is basically no throttle control, just flat to the floor.
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Post by spuddy on Jun 14, 2021 10:01:21 GMT 12
The sport that continues to shoot itself in the foot ... A multiple time NZ champ walks away /?d=n |
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