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Post by salooncar on Jan 14, 2024 14:09:14 GMT 12
Apparently Logan Peat fell foul of the rule book by stopping and waiting in the run off. When did that rule come into play?
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Post by BarryB on Jan 14, 2024 14:16:57 GMT 12
So 8a got the reds for pushing 79p off the pole line at the drop of the flag in run off, why do such a thing knowing your action means elimination.  . For stopping and holding him there [on the infield]. Not allowed to stop. Why? Maybe the Adrenalin of being in a run-off for the elusive 1nz? He had a plan, obviously, as soon as he won the toss and chose grid 2, but did not change his plan when the refereee told the drivers once they were on the track "normal racing rules, no stopping". Barry B |
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Post by Ramjam on Jan 14, 2024 14:18:09 GMT 12
Apparently Logan Peat fell foul of the rule book by stopping and waiting in the run off. When did that rule come into play? last night apparently lol. It's been a race rule for years |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 14, 2024 14:24:15 GMT 12
Apparently Logan Peat fell foul of the rule book by stopping and waiting in the run off. When did that rule come into play? He didn't stop and wait. He pushed the 79p over the pole line and held him there, against what he'd been told through his one-way earpiece just seconds before. And 79p was not allowed to drive around him because that'd be passing on the grass. Peat waited until 79p eventually hooked reverse and then he floored the 8a. But shortly after they through the reds and took Peat off for the rule breach. Barry B |
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Post by my2cents on Jan 14, 2024 16:57:11 GMT 12
Apparently Logan Peat fell foul of the rule book by stopping and waiting in the run off. When did that rule come into play? last night apparently lol. It's been a race rule for years RULE BOOK R12-3-25 Competitors waiting for another vehicle must be moving (however slowly) at all times, i.e. you can’t stop and wait. FIXED PENALTIES R12-3-25 Must be moving at all times Disqualified from the race I don't believe that the rule was broken in the run off, as they were not on the track when stopped, also can't be "waiting for another competitor" while on the infield. There was another rule broken (which has a DQ for the fixed penalty) in the race so the right result in the end (IMO if 8a had of protest if he was penalized for rule R12-3-25 he should have won, and if he lost the protest he could then appeal.) Also since when winning the toss and choosing grid 2 can you pick where on the track you can start. If you choose grid 2 you have given up that right of where in the track you can start. The is the privilege of been in Grid 1 |
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Post by grindingdisc on Jan 14, 2024 17:50:01 GMT 12
last night apparently lol. It's been a race rule for years RULE BOOK R12-3-25 Competitors waiting for another vehicle must be moving (however slowly) at all times, i.e. you can’t stop and wait. FIXED PENALTIES R12-3-25 Must be moving at all times Disqualified from the race I don't believe that the rule was broken in the run off, as they were not on the track when stopped, also can't be "waiting for another competitor" while on the infield. There was another rule broken (which has a DQ for the fixed penalty) in the race so the right result in the end (IMO if 8a had of protest if he was penalized for rule R12-3-25 he should have won, and if he lost the protest he could then appeal.) Also since when winning the toss and choosing grid 2 can you pick where on the track you can start. If you choose grid 2 you have given up that right of where in the track you can start. The is the privilege of been in Grid 1 He should have carryed on moving if he didnt want to be disqualifyed |
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Post by The other guy on Jan 14, 2024 18:20:49 GMT 12
A great 2 days well run.
I enjoyed every race.
Blessed by the weather.
BUT
Stratford what were you all doing, having a sleep.
10 cars, a third of the field, and you couldnt even get a car even close in the final washup.
After the 1st heat. Find the best chance competitor or 2 and go all out to get them home. Starting with heat 2.
Take them by surprise
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Post by Ramjam on Jan 14, 2024 18:25:51 GMT 12
last night apparently lol. It's been a race rule for years RULE BOOK R12-3-25 Competitors waiting for another vehicle must be moving (however slowly) at all times, i.e. you can’t stop and wait. FIXED PENALTIES R12-3-25 Must be moving at all times Disqualified from the race I don't believe that the rule was broken in the run off, as they were not on the track when stopped, also can't be "waiting for another competitor" while on the infield. There was another rule broken (which has a DQ for the fixed penalty) in the race so the right result in the end (IMO if 8a had of protest if he was penalized for rule R12-3-25 he should have won, and if he lost the protest he could then appeal.) Also since when winning the toss and choosing grid 2 can you pick where on the track you can start. If you choose grid 2 you have given up that right of where in the track you can start. The is the privilege of been in Grid 1 I wasn't there and didn't see it. I was just responding to the question posses in the quoted post, but it's amazing the number of drivers who don't know that's a rule |
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 14, 2024 18:46:55 GMT 12
A great 2 days well run. I enjoyed every race. Blessed by the weather. BUT Stratford what were you all doing, having a sleep. 10 cars, a third of the field, and you couldnt even get a car even close in the final washup. After the 1st heat. Find the best chance competitor or 2 and go all out to get them home. Starting with heat 2. Take them by surprise Yes very interesting they didn't go in to bat for each other. It's interesting so many people bagged the Superstock heat 3 that no1 got Asher. Heat 3 lastnight no1 attacked anyone that went into heat 3 in the top 5 did they |
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Post by Roxcyford on Jan 14, 2024 19:03:41 GMT 12
A great 2 days well run. I enjoyed every race. Blessed by the weather. BUT Stratford what were you all doing, having a sleep. 10 cars, a third of the field, and you couldnt even get a car even close in the final washup. After the 1st heat. Find the best chance competitor or 2 and go all out to get them home. Starting with heat 2. Take them by surprise Maybe cos they had no drivers up on points going into the last heat, had a lot of bad luck in first two heats with flat tires etc. . |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 14, 2024 19:26:38 GMT 12
A great 2 days well run. I enjoyed every race. Blessed by the weather. BUT Stratford what were you all doing, having a sleep. 10 cars, a third of the field, and you couldnt even get a car even close in the final washup. After the 1st heat. Find the best chance competitor or 2 and go all out to get them home. Starting with heat 2. Take them by surprise Yes very interesting they didn't go in to bat for each other. It's interesting so many people bagged the Superstock heat 3 that no1 got Asher. Heat 3 lastnight no1 attacked anyone that went into heat 3 in the top 5 did they There were plenty of Palmy cars too, yet nobody went after the 8a or the 99v, the two most obvious challengers to a P victory. And they only just scraped through after the Auckland car was DQ's in the run-off. Barry B |
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Post by andrewejc on Jan 14, 2024 19:38:03 GMT 12
Apparently Sam Wright was told if he showed up to the gate on night 2 with the bars on he wouldnt be allowed to race, so took them off. But Milla Theobold was allowed to run them. Does SNZ know what theyre doing?
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Post by atmosports on Jan 14, 2024 19:45:07 GMT 12
Sam's car has been green sheeted & run a few meetings now with no issues. Seems to be the usual SNZ/Local track BS intrepretations of the rulebook where it's ok for one person/track but not another. Same crap they've had for years with number size/locations etc
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Post by Tapped on Jan 14, 2024 20:07:20 GMT 12
Apparently Sam Wright was told if he showed up to the gate on night 2 with the bars on he wouldnt be allowed to race, so took them off. But Milla Theobold was allowed to run them. Does SNZ know what theyre doing? One of the Wellington Hocking's 7w runs the highbars as well. Don't know if he ran night two or not. Seems a bit childish to let drivers one night and not the next night. |
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Post by grindingdisc on Jan 14, 2024 22:24:05 GMT 12
Silly bits of plastic pipe that serve no real purpose what is point of running them?
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Post by The other guy on Jan 15, 2024 10:18:55 GMT 12
Excuse my ignorance but what are these highbars anyway
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Post by Roxcyford on Jan 15, 2024 12:27:46 GMT 12
Excuse my ignorance but what are these highbars anyway To defect a rolling vehicle up over roof, rather than coming back down on bonnet/motor.  . |
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Post by grindingdisc on Jan 15, 2024 12:50:07 GMT 12
Excuse my ignorance but what are these highbars anyway To defect a rolling vehicle up over roof, rather than coming back down on bonnet/motor. . Pvc pipe is non structural material only there for looks |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 15, 2024 14:47:03 GMT 12
When William Humphries built the first one in this latest incarnation of high-bar Stockcars/SuperStocks, the high-bars were part of the roll-cage, as were the Clark Proctor and Richie Wright cars in Auckland that got banned in the 1990's. SNZ said "no" to all of them. The Proctor and Wright cars never made the track looking like that, as SNZ had pinged them after photographs appeared of their off-season creations in the pages of NZDTR Magazine. After a visit to each from SNZ, the roll-cages on the 7m and 25a cars were reconstructed to standard design. There was, in roughly the same era, another high-bar car racing out of Huntly. That didn't appear to attract the same attention Clark Proctor did. It was white with a blue chassis from memory, maybe numbered 15h. I can't recall who usually drove it, but do remember Shane Anderson peddling it one weekend. That car ran in that form numerous times, and wasn't pounced on as quickly as the other two mentioned.
Now I think the 94p car of Humphries may not have been picked up until it first arrived at the track? I could be wrong because I wasn't there. The fix was to return to roll-cage to standard and affix the high-bars from the front of the chassis to the top of the front end of the roll cage. This, of course, meant that in a big hit these could snap off and spear somebody [unlike when it was one continuous pipe the full length of the car]. I'm assuming that whatever they're made of now will just disintegrate and injure nobody. The original idea was a structural piece of defence weaponry. Now it's just a bit of make-up.
Barry B
P.S; I'd just like the add that I, personally, really like the aesthetics of the high-bars, whether they're structural of $2 shop add-ons.
UPDATE; the Huntly high-bar Superstock was number 15h, not 19h. I have corrected that in the story above. The regular driver was Graham Pegg.
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Post by grindingdisc on Jan 15, 2024 15:20:24 GMT 12
When William Humphries built the first one in this latest incarnation of high-bar Stockcars/SuperStocks, the high-bars were part of the roll-cage, as were the Clark Proctor and Richie Wright cars in Auckland that got banned in the 1990's. SNZ said "no" to all of them. The Proctor and Wright cars never made the track looking like that, as SNZ had pinged them after photographs appeared of their off-season creations in the pages of NZDTR Magazine. After a visit to each from SNZ, the roll-cages on the 7m and 25a cars were reconstructed to standard design. There was, in roughly the same era, another high-bar car racing out of Huntly. That didn't appear to attract the same attention Clark Proctor did. It was white with a blue chassis from memory, maybe numbered 19h? I can't recall who usually drove it, but do remember Shane Anderson peddling it one weekend. That car ran in that form numerous times, and wasn't pounced on as quickly as the other two mentioned. Now I think the 94p car of Humphries may not have been picked up until it first arrived at the track? I could be wrong because I wasn't there. The fix was to return to roll-cage to standard and affix the high-bars from the front of the chassis to the top of the front end of the roll cage. This, of course, meant that in a big hit these could snap off and spear somebody [unlike when it was one continuous pipe the full length of the car]. I'm assuming that whatever they're made of now will just disintegrate and injure nobody. The original idea was a structural piece of defence weaponry. Now it's just a bit of make-up. Barry B Nice piece of info barry, is Richie Wright father of 94a Sam Wright? |
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