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Post by BarryB on Jan 4, 2010 21:18:32 GMT 12
According to the spectators, and comments on here from those that attended Baypark's much maligned NZ Salon car title, people agree that though they found the format slightly unfamiliar, that format ended up providing a fantastic spectacle I think it was probably an absolutely brilliant spectacle for that one race Obby, but Huntly's format pits the top 20 together over 3 heats AND a 1 race 20 lap final, not just one race at the end of 2 night's competition. |
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Post by dps on Jan 4, 2010 21:34:45 GMT 12
The saloons at Baypark you really only saw the top guys race in a full field together once and that was the 20 lap final.. before this they only had to do 1 10 lap heat & a 8 lap dash.. but with saying this you could call it a success in the fact that the best drivers came to the front... in an epic 20 lap feature.... 1, 2& 3. Williams, McClymont, Corrin & towgood are the best in the saloon class hands down.
This Weekend NZ Super saloons lots of racing with full fields 3 heats of 15 & a 20 lap one race final on nite 2.... its an awesome format for the fans.. looking forward to it!!!
but can you pin it down to only 4 drivers like the saloons... probably not... going on this seasons performances and with hopefully no major incidents & some luck i think these drivers will be in with a good chance for 1nz this season:
1NZ
7M
21N
58C
21H
Likely podium finishers:
46E
24M
25I
96A
4W
8H
But really who knows..its not so clear cut like the std saloons lets hope the track has lots of drive over the 2 nights.
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Post by NutZ on Jan 4, 2010 22:01:56 GMT 12
I think a good driver/car is less likely to be denied a chance of winning the title by the actions of a lower ranked driver/car with Bayparks format.
Even Phil Towgoods chance were ruined by his own bad luck, not some unfortunate accident caused by or involving a lower ranked driver/car.
Sure there is less carnage or full on excitement over the 2 days but I think that is a good thing and also, a sign of the times.
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Jan 4, 2010 22:48:29 GMT 12
I think a good driver/car is less likely to be denied a chance of winning the title by the actions of a lower ranked driver/car with Bayparks format. Even Phil Towgoods chance were ruined by his own bad luck, not some unfortunate accident caused by or involving a lower ranked driver/car. Speedway prowess is demonstrated by the Phil Towgoods of our sport, the saloon class - the ability to compete successfully, negotiating traffic and track conditions. The saloon class is supposed to be the more 'affordable and evenly competative class', with less disparity between the 'haves and have nots'. Regardless of the format, the cream rises. Regardless of the format, there is always the chance a favourite will incur damage. The final race was certainly very exciting and deserved winners the outcome, but frankly, the bulk of the field might as well have stayed in the pits, saved their tyres, their engines, for racing with a chance of a podium finish. The format used did not produce the exciting race, nothing the promotion did provided for the exciting race - it was the quality and closeness of the racing by the front running competitors which provided for an exciting race! If one car had started off the front by virtue of being the fastest and cleared out from the field, a boring race would have likely been the outcome. Speedway racing in it's purest form ... |
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Post by Patrick 198H on Jan 4, 2010 22:54:17 GMT 12
hi murray, i dont watch yr class, but i will on friday, cause my sons racing his ministock, an stockcars are stood down. Good luck grandad
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 4, 2010 23:01:07 GMT 12
This time the format worked only due to the 2nd nite. Not really sure bout nite 1, (a lot of racing for not much.)
I think the last race was one of the best I have seen but not due to the format. Just good guys on a wide track that let them show how good they are.
A marble draw, reverse and then top cars off then front could have been similiar.
One of the times this format has worked but other times it has not.
Williams by 0.23 secs is a great result.
Format seems ok (BUT VERY BUSY) for Hunty. Hope it works well.
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Post by mikey69 on Jan 5, 2010 4:04:54 GMT 12
Why is trev not entering schmuuka?he is due some luck in NZ title,or am i correct in saying last time they went up there they done alot of tyres??
Tell him gidday mate from mike at sjs he know lol
cheers mike
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Post by porry41 on Jan 5, 2010 8:27:46 GMT 12
hey shoe .yep bring ya gear .weve got a driving job for ya.  what was it gribbsy .the grader or the wheel packer ;D saloons are stooddown . belkies aus32 will be on display fri nite .i think up by fan van & will be running sat nite with the non qualifers .more info later .i will add to this post . rep |
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Post by schumaaka on Jan 5, 2010 9:27:08 GMT 12
Why is trev not entering schmuuka?he is due some luck in NZ title,or am i correct in saying last time they went up there they done alot of tyres?? Tell him gidday mate from mike at sjs he know lol cheers mike Trevs pretty committed with family and work and the timimg didn't really fit in shame tho that tracks alot like napier when it gets slick and the car would have been fast. |
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Post by schumaaka on Jan 5, 2010 9:31:20 GMT 12
hey shoe .yep bring ya gear .weve got a driving job for ya. what was it gribbsy .the grader or the wheel packer ;D saloons are stooddown . belkies aus32 will be on display fri nite .i think up by fan van & will be running sat nite with the non qualifers .more info later .i will add to this post . rep hahahah happy to help out anywhere, Mmmmm last time I drove the grader at the NZ champs a bunch of girls where flashing me as I went past the pit chute, is that going to happen up there as well?  |
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Post by Mike D on Jan 5, 2010 10:06:31 GMT 12
My picks
7M Brent Emmerson
58C Richie Taylor
21H Steve Williams
8H Craig Cardwell
1NZ Shane McIntyre
11M Neville Stuart
121N Ian Burson
and dont discount 3NZ Dennis Bolt in the EX 2NZ Josh Boulton Corvette
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Post by nakifans on Jan 5, 2010 17:16:52 GMT 12
:oOn the Friday night what time is the meeting due to finish.Doesn' t Huntly have any curfew problems.There is 180 laps of super saloons alone,3 groups 15x 4 ea,40 laps of production saloons plus mini stocks and sidechairs.Throw in the laps under yellow and protests etc I think by the time Red group get to R4 the older drivers will be in the land of nod.
Lets hope the weather Gods play their part,TV 3 has it wet and the Herald has it fine .Better go and check the cuckoo clock.
Hope the elite class of speedway put on a superb show and the win is from the track not protest room.
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Post by stockkarmad on Jan 5, 2010 18:15:32 GMT 12
all going well 46e will be up there
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Post by craig 41c streety on Jan 5, 2010 19:49:31 GMT 12
josh and bruce want 2 watch the mod
my picks
58c
121n
34t
46e ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2010 19:55:00 GMT 12
hey shoe .yep bring ya gear .weve got a driving job for ya. what was it gribbsy .the grader or the wheel packer ;D saloons are stooddown . belkies aus32 will be on display fri nite .i think up by fan van & will be running sat nite with the non qualifers .more info later .i will add to this post . rep well theres a seat in a commodore production for a driver on fri, due to regular driver being committed to other tasks that night, as for the grader,mmm,lol, sharing that ride with red can be intresting depending on the night, but will be great to see shane up here helping |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2010 19:59:22 GMT 12
:oOn the Friday night what time is the meeting due to finish.Doesn' t Huntly have any curfew problems.There is 180 laps of super saloons alone,3 groups 15x 4 ea,40 laps of production saloons plus mini stocks and sidechairs.Throw in the laps under yellow and protests etc I think by the time Red group get to R4 the older drivers will be in the land of nod. Lets hope the weather Gods play their part,TV 3 has it wet and the Herald has it fine .Better go and check the cuckoo clock. Hope the elite class of speedway put on a superb show and the win is from the track not protest room. yes there is a bit to get through but as long as all drivers in all classes get onto dummy grid on time and in order this will go a long way to helping meeting flow |
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Post by morry57 on Jan 5, 2010 20:38:24 GMT 12
1nz...121n ian burston...what an awesome driver to watch 2nz...25i Mike Verdoner...if he can keep his head he got the skill 3nz...58c Richy Taylor...he derserves the accolade good luck boys go the south  |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 5, 2010 20:58:14 GMT 12
I am picking the track will go slick with the amount of traffic on it over the two nights.
Therefore it will be a slick track specialist that will win it, or it will go the way of the grid draw. Someone that can get the rear, middle and front marble. Make the passes whilst there is grip in the track early, pass again early laps of heat two and then hold on to a front row spot for the 3rd heat. That will secure a good start position for the final where the track will be slick and passing very hard.
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Post by bigredcorvette on Jan 5, 2010 22:17:48 GMT 12
josh and bruce want 2 watch the mod Thats if they get it ready mate remember the motor shat itself |
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Post by schumaaka on Jan 6, 2010 8:22:33 GMT 12
According to the spectators, and comments on here from those that attended Bayparks much malaigned NZ Salon car title, people agree that though they found the format slightly unfamiliar, that format ended up providing a fantastic spectecle. most commentators and spectators on here at least it would seem, agreeing deserved winners and placegetters were found. It will be very interesting to hear what the spectators think about the success of the older (more popular maybe, certainly more understood) 3 heat format. Will we get a more deserved winner, will we even know the winner, or will the protest room get a workout? Heres hoping another top saloon car event, without the carnage ensues. and what about the rumours of Martin Halcrow returning for this title - has been in a runoff for this title here before, and with the added experiance of the sprintcars and car building experiance will have to be a threat! Get well Ian Burson - has been quick, and be great to see a stockcar driver get one back in the non contact classes! Formatt 4 heats for qualifying for each group. Repercharge/s Saturday (old style) 20 car 3 heat for points Then another 20 lapper first across the line to win. So Dodge the mayhem to qualify If you have a major then fix it and win the repercharge. Pass and dont get passed in the 3, 20 car races and dodge the mayhem and that will put you off near the front. Race 20 laps to win the championship. Or if you have a crash and can fix it go from the back and drive it like you stole it and drive around everyone to win. My guess is that there will be 4-5 at the front working hard, another 6 in the back hanging it on the outside and a group in the middle hoping to dodge any carnage that happens in the front. How to make it better??? flatten the inside lane and increase the speed of the outside lane and make it double file restarts for any cautions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Roll on Friday |
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what was it gribbsy .the grader or the wheel packer ;D saloons are stooddown . belkies aus32 will be on display fri nite .i think up by fan van & will be running sat nite with the non qualifers .more info later .i will add to this post . rep
