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Post by steelpanther on Feb 9, 2015 14:04:06 GMT 12
Thanks for clearing that up MadPhil. Anyone who knows Bryce knows how effective he is when his car is running properly. Who could forget his efforts at the Teams last season when he put body and car on the line. I take my hat off to him for going out there even when well short of running 100%. If nothing more it has a phsycological effect. Bryce has been the back bone of the Allstars for many seasons now and it's good to see him there to pass on his experiences to the young lads coming through.
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Post by lizard on Feb 9, 2015 14:49:51 GMT 12
Have the dates for next year been announced?
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Post by speedwaykitty on Feb 9, 2015 14:52:48 GMT 12
Have the dates for next year been announced? Will be 5th & 6th Feb 2016.. always first weekend in Feb Oops my mistake... I stand corrected with the dates as was only looking at the calendar... but still correct with it been the first weekend of Feb |
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Post by knownotmuch on Feb 9, 2015 14:53:53 GMT 12
Yes Saturday 6th and Sunday 7th. The public holiday is Mondayised next year so Monday will be the rain-out day.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2015 15:00:17 GMT 12
Well that's two different answers so far!!
Barry B
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Post by knownotmuch on Feb 9, 2015 15:01:42 GMT 12
Mine is correct as per Bruce Robertson
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Post by steelpanther on Feb 9, 2015 15:24:04 GMT 12
This year's programme says next year will be Saturday 6th and Sunday 7th.
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Post by mushez on Feb 9, 2015 16:04:36 GMT 12
Yes Saturday 6th and Sunday 7th. The public holiday is Mondayised next year so Monday will be the rain-out day. Just had to check, and yes it is Mondayised. OT, but also noticed that Auckland Anniversary weekend next year falls to be Monday 1st February, and had to look it up as that was new to me that it ever fell in February: Auckland Anniversary Day on Wikipedia"The holiday usually falls on the Monday closest to 29 January, the anniversary of the arrival of William Hobson, later the first Governor of New Zealand, in the Bay of Islands in 1840" So learned Auckland Anniversary day can be any day 26 January-1st February, as long as that day is a Monday, and school cannot start for the year until the day after. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 9, 2015 16:11:49 GMT 12
Sounds like a protest from Baypark!
I assume the Ref has ruled on something and there is an appeal to that ruling Sorry to bring this topic back up but I can can confirm there was no protest. The ref had various info given to him from spotters etc. re possible pole line issues and given the importance of getting the decision correct took the time to consider all the information available as well as talk to some drivers. His final decision was that the result stood as originally called. So no protest , no appeal either because the original results stood. |
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Post by mcfly on Feb 9, 2015 16:16:24 GMT 12
I thought the same thing in this instance. The light was put on the instant that the car rolled and then 8p travelled nearly 1/4 of a lap under the red without being put back at all. I couldn't believe he was left where he stopped, the ref must have been watching those 2 cars because he reacted so fast with activating the red. It is a fair question to ask why was he not returned to that spot. Probably left where he stopped due to the fact he had a lot of pace on when the lights came on same as any other car on the track, if every car was moved back to where they were the instant the lights came on we'd still be at the track The walled car that got moved back was the cause of the red light because of position with a exposed cage, I'm surprised he wasn't removed rather than allowed to continue & eventually finish second Have a look in the photo mate, although you are correct about the cage being exposed, you are also taking about a different incident because there is no way Kerry was allowed to continue, or finish second while on his side rail! |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 9, 2015 16:19:07 GMT 12
I thought the rules were if you move on the red lights after coming to a stop then thats you you were instantly taken off? So if thats the case i believe the race should have been stopped and miers taken off also Trevor Mason moved back on a red light without anyone telling him to so i also think that should of been him off. Rules are rules and if there in the rule book they should be inforced... I also thought your wing had to be withen the drip rails of your body? If so how did the 5a Allstars car pass scrutineering palmy are usually so anal about everything at scrutineering. You probably need to think about all these things happening in the context of the Teams Champs and the pressure on the drivers. I'm not sure why you need to 'thought the rules were'. The rule book is online so you can 'know the rule' www.speedway.co.nz/pdf/Rulebook/2014%20Rulebook.pdfnow that's stirring -trolling boss, love it  |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2015 17:06:25 GMT 12
R12-4-14 There is no protesting in teams racing, but Appeals are permitted.
I assume the Ref has ruled on something and there is an appeal to that ruling Sorry to bring this topic back up but I can confirm there was no protest. The ref had various info given to him from spotters etc. re possible pole line issues and given the importance of getting the decision correct took the time to consider all the information available as well as talk to some drivers. His final decision was that the result stood as originally called. So no protest , no appeal either because the original results stood. I guessed that one right then!! (A few pages back somewhere). Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2015 17:07:23 GMT 12
Miers didn't move on a red light , there was no light. he moved during the delay between the red and green.You probably need to think about all these things happening in the context of the Teams Champs and the pressure on the drivers. I'm not sure why you need to 'thought the rules were'. The rule book is online so you can 'know the rule' www.speedway.co.nz/pdf/Rulebook/2014%20Rulebook.pdf now that's stirring -trolling boss, love it No, that's FACT based on the rule change a couple of season's back. Barry B |
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Post by cookster on Feb 9, 2015 18:21:45 GMT 12
Hope Cookster and 4zfed have there cars ready for the Auckland teams. lol.. sorry not for me. I am to new to the sport and know my limits. I am not knocking him for teams racing infact take my hat of for gettingin and having go and if you really look at it there isn't anyone else. The only person I would like to see back in the Allstars is Jamie Ferguson but he has no drive at the moment. |
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Post by mordecai on Feb 9, 2015 18:34:04 GMT 12
Hope Cookster and 4zfed have there cars ready for the Auckland teams. lol.. sorry not for me. I am to new to the sport and know my limits. I am not knocking him for teams racing infact take my hat of for gettingin and having go and if you really look at it there isn't anyone else. The only person I would like to see back in the Allstars is Jamie Ferguson but he has no drive at the moment. put him in brads tank |
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Post by tony27 on Feb 9, 2015 19:17:05 GMT 12
Probably left where he stopped due to the fact he had a lot of pace on when the lights came on same as any other car on the track, if every car was moved back to where they were the instant the lights came on we'd still be at the track The walled car that got moved back was the cause of the red light because of position with a exposed cage, I'm surprised he wasn't removed rather than allowed to continue & eventually finish second Have a look in the photo mate, although you are correct about the cage being exposed, you are also taking about a different incident because there is no way Kerry was allowed to continue, or finish second while on his side rail! I was talking about 2 different races that were mentioned together, the walled car was 52B at the entry to turn 3 who had been put up the wall then the car who walled him took off leaving his cage exposed, the lights came on as he drove off the wall |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 9, 2015 19:44:39 GMT 12
now that's stirring -trolling boss, love it No, that's FACT based on the rule change a couple of season's back. Barry B You still can't (shouldn't) move until the greens come on thou! |
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Post by Shai-tan on Feb 9, 2015 19:54:21 GMT 12
Macgor I believe the grass mowing incident was against baypark not the final! Watched again too , take a look. Such claims are absolute fantasy. Each time he was on the grass he was out of control as a result of contact on the track. To be straight up about it Scott Miers had his best most effective teams meeting in quite a while.(my opinion) BS, I was sitting right on turn 3, seen it with my own eyes |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2015 19:56:26 GMT 12
No, that's FACT based on the rule change a couple of season's back. Barry B You still can't (shouldn't) move until the greens come on thou! That's as maybe, but there IS a difference between moving under reds and moving before the green these days. Barry B |
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Post by screaminV8 on Feb 9, 2015 20:19:32 GMT 12
As far as the Allstars go I thought they did pretty well all things considered. 5th last year and 6th this year after losing Scott Tenant after only the first race. Carl Hodge is still a force to be reckoned with and has a bright future. He didn't have a good first night but more than made up for it on night two. I think Bryce had car issues all weekend and even to be on the track on night two was an effort hence why he struggled to be as effective as he usually is. As far as Gavin is concerned he was Auckland's (All)star this weekend. Great blocking in every race and even chipped in with a win too. I'm wondering how much better it would have been for Auckland if they were able to have Scott running all weekend. The Chev in Bryce's car (63a) had engine trouble at the end of the first race on Friday night putting it down to 7 cylinders. But with Scott (29a) being out the option was to either run with 3 cars or put the 63a car on track. The damage couldn't get fix on Saturday, but Dad still let the car go out to get 4 cars on track. This mean Bryce was more of a sitting duck and took a huge hit which basically broke all the steering. After a butchered fix he went out again for the last race but the steering box pretty much shattered and the steering wheel basically free wheeling. The car has taken huge damage, engine now only running on half the number of cylinders and not even sure at the moment if it can be repaired for the Auckland Teams. Thanks for the update Phil. Isn't it interesting when the real,reasons are known as to why someone drove like they did. I think Bryce deserves to be congratulated, it is very brave to go out in a Teams race with a car not 100%, easy to become a target. And also the Marx Team for risking big damage to the car and engine so as not to leave their team with only 3 cars on track. Hopefully it can be sorted in times for auckland teams. |
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