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Post by blackbullet on Jan 24, 2019 20:26:25 GMT 12
every heat will get run, the final will definitely be run. I think its going to be an awesome meeting,and as most nz stockcar titles is generally a crowd pleaser due to the contact i cant wait Mate there's not going to be any hitting. The track is far to wide :PWhat a load of bs ask Jack McClymont if they have contact in stockcars at Bay Park, I have attended a number of meetings this season and would have to say the stockcars have been a class to watch, With more than 30 cars each heat there is action aplenty, I may be wrong but this will be a meeting that will be one that will either turn it on or will be like the saloon racing we had at Gisborne last year |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 26, 2019 22:57:00 GMT 12
Baypark are really going to have to be on top of their game to run this meeting within curfew,
Tonight they started with 33 cars in the first heat. I didn't think about timing this race but I did for the second and 3rd heats. I timed from when the first car came out on track, until the last car was take off the track.
Race 2 - 8 laps - 28 cars - a couple of stopages (including one for a car on it's side, which took ages to sort). This race took 19 mins 41secs
Race 3 - 8 Laps - only 16 cars - No stopages, no action. This race took 9 mins 10 Secs
I would suggest the first race was somewhere near middle of both.
So if we suggest each race takes 15 mins (this includes cars coming out, griding up, race, stopages and car removal/leaving track and we have 15 (5 groups x 3) races then that is 225 mins
6.30pm - 10.00pm is 210 mins. So we are 15 mins over already
Add to that there will be more than 8 laps, with 40 cars to start with, with extra care needed to make sure cars are gridded up correctly. Plus would hate to see any tied points come down to who finished best in heat 1.
This is going to be very tight at best.
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Post by roxcyford on Jan 27, 2019 21:30:09 GMT 12
as the norm with stockcars 180-200 entries is common & baypark knowing it will be tight time wise why couldn,t they find a fairer solution to run off,s one that comes to mind take the 36 highest point scorers over all the heats no run off,s if there is a tie for final spots next highest draw 1 ,2,3,4 whatever in the repercharge to find the numbers to make up the 36 required easy  |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 27, 2019 21:42:48 GMT 12
I will be happy if they get the 15 qual races done, let alone run offs. You saying top 36 in all heats, as in 3 from one group and 6 from another if thats how the points fall??
Tied points in groups are an absolute possibility, and at the same a nightmare.
I don't want only ten races on night one but is it better to do marble draw, and reverse for the 5 groups and deal with tied points?
Could be 6 car runoff's haha,
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 27, 2019 21:48:21 GMT 12
I suspect the specs for this meeting has been submitted, and accepted. Therefore BP need to perform to what they submitted.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 29, 2019 8:34:23 GMT 12
I should have the groups tomorrow morning (they haven't been drawn yet), so will post then at some stage during the day.
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Post by The Observer on Jan 29, 2019 20:43:00 GMT 12
Baypark are really going to have to be on top of their game to run this meeting within curfew, Tonight they started with 33 cars in the first heat. I didn't think about timing this race but I did for the second and 3rd heats. I timed from when the first car came out on track, until the last car was take off the track. Race 2 - 8 laps - 28 cars - a couple of stopages (including one for a car on it's side, which took ages to sort). This race took 19 mins 41secs Race 3 - 8 Laps - only 16 cars - No stopages, no action. This race took 9 mins 10 Secs I would suggest the first race was somewhere near middle of both. So if we suggest each race takes 15 mins (this includes cars coming out, griding up, race, stopages and car removal/leaving track and we have 15 (5 groups x 3) races then that is 225 mins 6.30pm - 10.00pm is 210 mins. So we are 15 mins over already Add to that there will be more than 8 laps, with 40 cars to start with, with extra care needed to make sure cars are gridded up correctly. Plus would hate to see any tied points come down to who finished best in heat 1. This is going to be very tight at best. Thanks for this - a very good quick analysis. Did you spot any specific areas that might help change what is beginning to feel inevitable? More tractors is always great but if they don’t have driver and helpers knowing what’s going on it still makes it a battle. Wish the track all the best, but the legacy is looking like coming true. And I do hope 1nz is able to enter |
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Post by champhawkeyes on Jan 30, 2019 5:23:30 GMT 12
Just asking if there is a rain out will it be Sunday during the day or at night please
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Post by downey on Jan 30, 2019 8:13:42 GMT 12
So what's the reasoning behind having a curfew at the beginning of a night?
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Post by BarryB on Jan 30, 2019 9:02:31 GMT 12
So what's the reasoning behind having a curfew at the beginning of a night? Part of the Resource Consent. Limits not only how late you can make noise, but for how many hours as well. Baypark has the toughest restrictions, but then it's also the newest track. Restritions are creeping in to other venues as well, like Western Springs and Nelson. The future is less noise and for shorter periods than we were once used to. It will likely affect all speedways evetually....... Barry B |
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Post by downey on Jan 30, 2019 9:11:37 GMT 12
So what's the reasoning behind having a curfew at the beginning of a night? Part of the Resource Consent. Limits not only how late you can make noise, but for how many hours as well. Baypark has the toughest restrictions, but then it's also the newest track. Restritions are creeping in to other venues as well, like Western Springs and Nelson. The future is less noise and for shorter periods than we were once used to. It will likely affect all speedways evetually....... Barry B Thanks for the answer. Will this affect Paradise Valley in that it's a little further away from houses? |
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Post by tank11 on Jan 30, 2019 11:04:28 GMT 12
Part of the Resource Consent. Limits not only how late you can make noise, but for how many hours as well. Baypark has the toughest restrictions, but then it's also the newest track. Restritions are creeping in to other venues as well, like Western Springs and Nelson. The future is less noise and for shorter periods than we were once used to. It will likely affect all speedways evetually....... Barry B Thanks for the answer. Will this affect Paradise Valley in that it's a little further away from houses? The houses WILL get there, so in the long term, YES. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 30, 2019 13:37:57 GMT 12
Thanks for the answer. Will this affect Paradise Valley in that it's a little further away from houses? The houses WILL get there, so in the long term, YES. It won't take Auckland that many years to expand and completely envelope the likes of Huntly and Rotorua. Then Auckland will be flush with speedways......... Barry B |
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Post by tank11 on Jan 30, 2019 18:30:07 GMT 12
The houses WILL get there, so in the long term, YES. It won't take Auckland that many years to expand and completely envelope the likes of Huntly and Rotorua. Then Auckland will be flush with speedways......... Barry B Don't count on that Barry............ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 19:20:28 GMT 12
Part of the Resource Consent. Limits not only how late you can make noise, but for how many hours as well. Baypark has the toughest restrictions, but then it's also the newest track. Restritions are creeping in to other venues as well, like Western Springs and Nelson. The future is less noise and for shorter periods than we were once used to. It will likely affect all speedways evetually....... Barry B Thanks for the answer. Will this affect Paradise Valley in that it's a little further away from houses? Apparently there is a big housing development given the go ahead in Pukehangi Rd Rotorua , which isnt far from the speedway track . So expect rumblings once this starts. |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 30, 2019 20:16:37 GMT 12
Baypark are really going to have to be on top of their game to run this meeting within curfew, Tonight they started with 33 cars in the first heat. I didn't think about timing this race but I did for the second and 3rd heats. I timed from when the first car came out on track, until the last car was take off the track. Race 2 - 8 laps - 28 cars - a couple of stopages (including one for a car on it's side, which took ages to sort). This race took 19 mins 41secs Race 3 - 8 Laps - only 16 cars - No stopages, no action. This race took 9 mins 10 Secs I would suggest the first race was somewhere near middle of both. So if we suggest each race takes 15 mins (this includes cars coming out, griding up, race, stopages and car removal/leaving track and we have 15 (5 groups x 3) races then that is 225 mins 6.30pm - 10.00pm is 210 mins. So we are 15 mins over already Add to that there will be more than 8 laps, with 40 cars to start with, with extra care needed to make sure cars are gridded up correctly. Plus would hate to see any tied points come down to who finished best in heat 1. This is going to be very tight at best. Thanks for this - a very good quick analysis. Did you spot any specific areas that might help change what is beginning to feel inevitable? More tractors is always great but if they don’t have driver and helpers knowing what’s going on it still makes it a battle. Wish the track all the best, but the legacy is looking like coming true. And I do hope 1nz is able to enter Not really. They lined up pretty quick. Just your normal odd stoppage for stranded cars. ( hope this is not an area that will be used for making up time by not throwing reds). The major hold up was when a car rode the wall and fell on its side, with another car pinned. This did seem to take a while, and certainly didn't look like any incident you wouldn't see at any track any weekend. Car recovery and getting cars from the track after each race would be where I would target efficiencies. Rather than load the infield with tractors I would suggest double the number and have them inside pit gate (leave some out to deal with mid race stopages). As soon as the race finishes let the tractors out to retrieve broken cars, then the mobile cars in, next heat out to grid, and broken cars back in. I could live with next heat coming out to grid up first, but that doesn't seem to be the time consuming activity here. |
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Post by Helios on Jan 30, 2019 21:07:22 GMT 12
That's the way (the current) Baypark used to do it. Perhaps a guest appearance from Bob the Builder and his Manitou wouldn't go astray as well .....
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Post by BarryB on Jan 30, 2019 21:53:40 GMT 12
Sorry. I was advised I'd have the groups this morning. Didn't happen. Hopefully tomorrow morning.....
Barry B
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Post by kessa on Jan 30, 2019 22:28:10 GMT 12
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Post by BarryB on Jan 31, 2019 5:08:11 GMT 12
199 cars/drivers
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