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Post by d1dazza on Feb 19, 2021 20:59:16 GMT 12
Waikato raiders destroy rotorua 185 to 10. Booking a semi vs canterbury.
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 19, 2021 20:59:59 GMT 12
Have used their 6th driver now and he will need to stay in the car for rest of meeting. Still not sure they got it right.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 19, 2021 21:01:41 GMT 12
But Auckland still win with the 95a. Looking forward to seeing the race later. Barry B I thought 3NZ finished  Ooops. I stand corrected. 3nza, ex 95a.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 19, 2021 21:06:17 GMT 12
Auckland have 2 drivers excluded. Logan peat and corey baker. Am unsure on why tho Supposedly not just for the race but for the meeting. Thorts? Only going from commentry Excluded for 8 days. Both drivers. Looking forward to the replay. On the initial playing of the race as the commentary mentioned two of the Auckland cars being put up a lap. I didn't understand what on earth he meant then I lost both pictures and sound. Many still seem to think 15p won, so hopefully the camera work will allow us to see for ourselves on the replay coming up shortly.
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 19, 2021 21:11:01 GMT 12
I think it may have something to do with bringing the cars forward under the reds and triggering the transponder which put them ahead of Miers. However didn't see it due to stream.
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Post by tony27 on Feb 19, 2021 21:14:26 GMT 12
Had to be what the cause was, at the track he was definitely on the same lap
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Post by bigforce on Feb 19, 2021 21:14:59 GMT 12
Supposedly not just for the race but for the meeting. Thorts? Only going from commentry Excluded for 8 days. Both drivers. Looking forward to the replay. On the initial playing of the race as the commentary mentioned two of the Auckland cars being put up a lap. I didn't understand what on earth he meant then I lost both pictures and sound. Many still seem to think 15p won, so hopefully the camera work will allow us to see for ourselves on the replay coming up shortly. Under the first red light of the race some cars were moved foward at least half a lap instead of moving them back for some reason which then put others down a position then the stream cut out
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2021 21:15:12 GMT 12
Supposedly not just for the race but for the meeting. Thorts? Only going from commentry Excluded for 8 days. Both drivers. Looking forward to the replay. On the initial playing of the race as the commentary mentioned two of the Auckland cars being put up a lap. I didn't understand what on earth he meant then I lost both pictures and sound. Many still seem to think 15p won, so hopefully the camera work will allow us to see for ourselves on the replay coming up shortly. as I understand it the 2 Auckland cars attacked 15p after they had passed the finish flag. 15p had not yet passed the flag. Likewise will have to watch it again.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 19, 2021 21:18:37 GMT 12
Excluded for 8 days. Both drivers. Looking forward to the replay. On the initial playing of the race as the commentary mentioned two of the Auckland cars being put up a lap. I didn't understand what on earth he meant then I lost both pictures and sound. Many still seem to think 15p won, so hopefully the camera work will allow us to see for ourselves on the replay coming up shortly. as I understand it the 2 Auckland cars attacked 15p after they had passed the finish flag. 15p had not yet passed the flag. Likewise will have to watch it again. I accept that, but it appears many thought he was the race leader, not the Auckland car, but I only saw 2-3 laps of the race and heard 2-3 laps of commentary, plus the commentators chat later.
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2021 21:22:48 GMT 12
as I understand it the 2 Auckland cars attacked 15p after they had passed the finish flag. 15p had not yet passed the flag. Likewise will have to watch it again. I accept that, but it appears many thought he was the race leader, not the Auckland car, but I only saw 2-3 laps of the race and heard 2-3 laps of commentary, plus the commentators chat later. live laps at the time were showing 15p to be a lap down. I see that data is not now available when I just went to check.
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Post by my2cents on Feb 19, 2021 21:25:59 GMT 12
Surely the officials went to the pits tv and watched the replay. Or either team would have watched reply from pits tv
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Post by The other guy on Feb 19, 2021 21:36:42 GMT 12
Does not really matter either way. No one is going to beat Wellington on tonights results
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Post by BarryB on Feb 19, 2021 21:36:56 GMT 12
I accept that, but it appears many thought he was the race leader, not the Auckland car, but I only saw 2-3 laps of the race and heard 2-3 laps of commentary, plus the commentators chat later. live laps at the time were showing 15p to be a lap down. I see that data is not now available when I just went to check. I'm wondering now whether we're not going to get our replay either.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 19, 2021 21:39:49 GMT 12
Does not really matter either way. No one is going to beat Wellington on tonights results So wellington get the easiest group. And all of a sudden no one can beat them. I disagree with you when you look at the caliber of teams everybody raced
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Post by tony27 on Feb 19, 2021 21:51:18 GMT 12
Excluded for 8 days. Both drivers. Looking forward to the replay. On the initial playing of the race as the commentary mentioned two of the Auckland cars being put up a lap. I didn't understand what on earth he meant then I lost both pictures and sound. Many still seem to think 15p won, so hopefully the camera work will allow us to see for ourselves on the replay coming up shortly. as I understand it the 2 Auckland cars attacked 15p after they had passed the finish flag. 15p had not yet passed the flag. Likewise will have to watch it again. 8a attacked 667p after turn 4, almost a full lap after the flag. I think the thoughts on where 15p dropped a lap on livelaps is correct, only way short of transponder failure
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2021 21:59:30 GMT 12
as I understand it the 2 Auckland cars attacked 15p after they had passed the finish flag. 15p had not yet passed the flag. Likewise will have to watch it again. 8a attacked 667p after turn 4, almost a full lap after the flag. I think the thoughts on where 15p dropped a lap on livelaps is correct, only way short of transponder failure Nothing on the replay showed 15p dropping a lap but then dare I say the camera work wasnt really looking where we wanted it be. My gut feeling is the officials stuffed up the moment they started moving all those cars about the place. Might have to wait for petrol fumes video.
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Post by percy on Feb 19, 2021 21:59:48 GMT 12
Just saw the replay - 15p undoubtedly "wins the race". I've put that in inverted commas because I have to check the rule book to see what it says about passing under the chequered flag.
At the first stoppage for 9a, 15p appears to be in fourth around half a lap down. As the race resumes he moves quite quickly into second place, stalking Peat for the second half of the race. He makes the winning pass on the final lap after 8a contacts another car.
In my mind this is clear - 15p is the first car to complete 10 laps (probably 9 laps if the suspected ELS error is correct).
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Post by hercules on Feb 19, 2021 22:09:47 GMT 12
Under the red the lead cars kept going for half a lap as didn’t see lights, and crossed the line, then finally stopped turn 2 on lap 2. does that count them even under red? 15p wasn’t in that group
As they all got put back to turn 4, on lap 1 and 15p was turn 3 area also lap 1.
Maybe els counted the first crossing and as they crossed line again it said lap 2 and 15p lap 1? I dunno, my brains fried 😂.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 19, 2021 22:14:13 GMT 12
The one silver lining is the 2016 mess and auckland left the track 8th and into the quarter finals. When they arrived they were 9th and out and another team was in. Was to do with stu racham (palmy) having illegal engine. So palmy remained in the top 8 but dropped a few spots. Auckland were the biggests losers in all thta. What comes around goes around i guess. Would much rather palmy took on Wellington.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 19, 2021 22:16:27 GMT 12
Under the red the lead cars kept going for half a lap as didn’t see lights, and crossed the line, then finally stopped turn 2 on lap 2. does that count them even under red? 15p wasn’t in that group As they all got put back to turn 4, on lap 1 and 15p was turn 3 area also lap 1. Maybe els counted the first crossing and as they crossed line again it said lap 2 and 15p lap 1? I dunno, my brains fried 😂. Well they drove forward around the track instead of doubling back. Where was manual lap scorers. Or there wasnt any?
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