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Post by sorrywot on Feb 26, 2023 21:17:10 GMT 12
Anyone else had an absolute gutsful of Paul Referee Hickey spouting nonsense and calling shots wrong constantly? I love teams racing but god its hard to enjoy watching when I have to mute the stream
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 26, 2023 21:18:49 GMT 12
The Alleycats went around the track today at Waikaraka showing off the trophy and they still have the Rees Shield 👍 Would rather travel to Auckland than Christchurch, hate those ferry crossings, makes me sick thinking about it. .
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Post by midway on Feb 26, 2023 21:23:40 GMT 12
The Alleycats went around the track today at Waikaraka showing off the trophy and they still have the Rees Shield 👍 Would rather travel to Auckland than Christchurch, hate those ferry crossings, makes me sick thinking about it. . Are the pockets in your puffer jacket not big enough to contain the excess
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Post by stikshift87 on Feb 26, 2023 21:57:59 GMT 12
Anyone else had an absolute gutsful of Paul Referee Hickey spouting nonsense and calling shots wrong constantly? I love teams racing but god its hard to enjoy watching when I have to mute the stream Added to that the incessant mispronunciation. Was extremely painful as the group I was with were parked in front of a speaker.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 27, 2023 0:15:00 GMT 12
Anyone else had an absolute gutsful of Paul Referee Hickey spouting nonsense and calling shots wrong constantly? I love teams racing but god its hard to enjoy watching when I have to mute the stream Added to that the incessant mispronunciation. Was extremely painful as the group I was with were parked in front of a speaker. Paul's pronunciation is very good, although we all get caught out occasionally with new names appearing on drivers we've never come across of before. I'll never forget the first time Dale Ewers appeared at Huntly. He made a point of storming the commentary box and correcting the commentary team on the correct pronunciation of his surname, and we never got it wrong again as he went on to become one of the all-time greats. But the thing was, Dale went to the trouble of taking the time to correct our pronunciation of "Ewers", and I appreciated that. If I've seen a name listed before a meeting that I'm unsure of, if I get the chance I try to track them down before racing starts and ask on how they prefer their name to be pronounced. But sometimes that is not possible, although I am assuming here that you are referring to pronunciation of a driver's name/drivers names? You don't actually explain what you mean by "incessant mispronunciation?" Barry B
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Post by tiroto on Feb 27, 2023 5:28:09 GMT 12
Anyone else had an absolute gutsful of Paul Referee Hickey spouting nonsense and calling shots wrong constantly? I love teams racing but god its hard to enjoy watching when I have to mute the stream Added to that the incessant mispronunciation. Was extremely painful as the group I was with were parked in front of a speaker. "Extremely painful" really Stikshift87? You sound like you need to go see a doctor! Incessant mispronounciation? How about your spelling wotshot - god has a capital G for starters and "its" has an apostrophe between the "t" and the "s" What is painful Stikshift87 is the misprounciation of te Reo Māori. Out of all commentators in speedway Paul is the ONLY one who pronounces Māori words properly! Every other commentator butchers the Māori words. As a speaker of Te Reo that's what I find hard on the ears - where there is no attempt to pronounce vowels and consonants properly.
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Post by Row on Feb 27, 2023 5:35:35 GMT 12
Added to that the incessant mispronunciation. Was extremely painful as the group I was with were parked in front of a speaker. "Extremely painful" really Stikshift87? You sound like you need to go see a doctor! Incessant mispronounciation? How about your spelling wotshot - god has a capital G for starters and "its" has an apostrophe between the "t" and the "s" What is painful Stikshift87 is the misprounciation of te Reo Māori. Out of all commentators in speedway Paul is the ONLY one who pronounces Māori words properly! Every other commentator butchers the Māori words. As a speaker of Te Reo that's what I hard on the ears - where there is no attempt to pronounce vowels and consonants properly. Don't make this a race thing
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Post by tiroto on Feb 27, 2023 6:44:18 GMT 12
Don't read to much into it brother. An issue raised by Stikshift87 is mispronunciation - I'm only responding to his criticism.
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Post by tank11 on Feb 27, 2023 7:13:15 GMT 12
Added to that the incessant mispronunciation. Was extremely painful as the group I was with were parked in front of a speaker. "Extremely painful" really Stikshift87? You sound like you need to go see a doctor! Incessant mispronounciation? How about your spelling wotshot - god has a capital G for starters and "its" has an apostrophe between the "t" and the "s" What is painful Stikshift87 is the misprounciation of te Reo Māori. Out of all commentators in speedway Paul is the ONLY one who pronounces Māori words properly! Every other commentator butchers the Māori words. As a speaker of Te Reo that's what I hard on the ears - where there is no attempt to pronounce vowels and consonants properly. Most all announcers can't get Gisborne correct, even on the TV news! Even one is from here and still says "Gisbin"
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Post by tank11 on Feb 27, 2023 7:34:24 GMT 12
Sometimes commentary has a better angle than spectators at the track and/or those shown by the livestream cameras, and sometimes a worst view. Barry B The comprehension remark was in reference to the rule. Paul stated the "car was pointing the wrong way up the track" or words to that effect so obviously there was no confusion about the placement of the car on the track in this incident. Personally I hate this being able to hit stationary cars rule, it's not safe. Only mobile cars should be able to attack or be attacked. Hey Mr Mac. Remember the Gis teams champs. Peewee was sitting just before turn 4 up near the wall, facing to the infield. Crushers left him alone for about 4 laps. Bruce (8g) even came to push him off and got waved away by Pete. Then with Harry Potter(Lovel, G racing for C) leading , running by the pole line and a wingman beside him, Pete took both out, ending Lovel's race. Will always be one of the greatest shots in team racing, I reckon. Pete could see it from 4 laps out?
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Post by Macgor on Feb 27, 2023 8:04:26 GMT 12
The comprehension remark was in reference to the rule. Paul stated the "car was pointing the wrong way up the track" or words to that effect so obviously there was no confusion about the placement of the car on the track in this incident. Personally I hate this being able to hit stationary cars rule, it's not safe. Only mobile cars should be able to attack or be attacked. Hey Mr Mac. Remember the Gis teams champs. Peewee was sitting just before turn 4 up near the wall, facing to the infield. Crushers left him alone for about 4 laps. Bruce (8g) even came to push him off and got waved away by Pete. Then with Harry Potter(Lovel, G racing for C) leading , running by the pole line and a wingman beside him, Pete took both out, ending Lovel's race. Will always be one of the greatest shots in team racing, I reckon. Pete could see it from 4 laps out? Plus Barry Hunter and Eddie Hawkins setting the stage for such actions year's before. Pete was the smartest though, playing possum until the time to strike was ripe. Barry's trick of going to the infield early in the race to observe and then reappear on track later to take out the lead opposition also springs to mind. Makes me wonder why they make new rules when it was so entertaining as it was lol.
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Post by graemeh on Feb 27, 2023 8:45:47 GMT 12
Personally I hate this being able to hit stationary cars rule, it's not safe. Only mobile cars should be able to attack or be attacked. Unfortunately those with probably the worst vantage point, in so far as assessing the level of threat a stationary car may pose, are the drivers themselves. Just for context for those unsure or too young to remember how or why the rule come into effect for teams racing in the first place, and someone correct me if I'm wrong. Playing possum and then (a previously stationary) car pulling out in front of the lead opposition car with a lap or 2 left was becoming an all to common tactic, with the drivers defence being I wasn't stationary, I was moving at the point of contact, and if I wasn't moving contact would never have been made. This then lead to the situation of a car being a threat but the opposite team had no way of eliminating that threat until it was too late. So the code of ethics was drawn up by the drivers of the time, which effectively became the rules of teams racing. I dunno what can be done to fix the ridiculous situations of clearly dangerous clean outs can be eliminated without going back to the kamikaze attacks we used to see. But in line with the thread on over aggressive attacking, pls don't bring in a rule that says something like u may hit a stationary car in an attacking position but just not too hard🤣 Ramjam's explanation of why the rules are the rules is exactly right and without a better rule to maintain a level playing field we just have to live with it. If a car becomes stationary the driver does have the option of signalling "thumbs down" and being removed. I don't think we need to get to the point where as in normal racing the ref puts red light on to remove stopped cars. Some very smart people, competitors, were involved in making the current Teams Rules.
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Post by stikshift87 on Feb 27, 2023 10:35:45 GMT 12
Don't read to much into it brother. An issue raised by Stikshift87 is mispronunciation - I'm only responding to his criticism. Wow what a weak response. So you must be a good friend and supporter of Mr Hickey to lower yourself to this extent. While we are at it Mr Brown you are so wrong. FYI I was referring to the constant pronouncing of 'D' as 'T' and there were others. I have a tertiary certification in english and Mr Tiroto I don't have any problems correctly pronouncing basic to mid-range Te Reo as the vowels are absolute, not that it had any relevance to my post.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 27, 2023 11:11:37 GMT 12
"D" as "T"? I'm sorry, but I still don't grasp your complaint.
Barry B
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Post by percy on Feb 27, 2023 11:51:12 GMT 12
Are you disappointed Huntly pulled it off Percy 🤣🤣. Why are you always so negative about this club? Let's take a break from the finer points of the English language to engage with this delightful post I invested $50 and 12 hours of time to attend this meeting and was happy with my investment. The Alleycats victory didn't hurt either! The whole team at Huntly deserve accolades for their operational performance on the day under trying circumstances. Red was charging around like a spring chicken, Annette almost ran a half marathon and the whole team went above and beyond to produce an enjoyable day. I'm glad they put a break in the schedule (as suggested) and we got half an Eagles concert as a bonus! So yes, I do recognise the positives but lets also recognise there was a better way of doing things in some areas. In terms of size the crowd was a Friday night crowd. A more effective way of managing would have been to institute a $30 an adult entry from say 6pm onwards (or after the break in proceedings. How many people couldn't commit to doing the full day but would have come for the evening portion had the entry fee been amended to reflect the volume of racing? Was there a creative solution to get the entire Modified schedule into the second half of the show to enable all 17 entrants to attend? Perhaps the format could have been altered with the field going into 3 groups with two racing at one time. Place all the Stratford guys into group 3 and have them participate in heat 2 & 3 so they didn't need to get there at 10am, forcing their withdrawal. If you think I'm bad with Huntly go and talk with the previous Baypark promoter! If you're not innovating and doing things differently you're standing still. Analysing how things go and making positive change is what moves promotions forward. The World 240's is an iconic event because no matter how well the event runs, Sonja makes it better every year. The team at Huntly should rightfully be happy with their effort whilst also recognising the things that went astray. One would hope if the weather is iffy at the NZ Superstock Title they will not try and run heat 3 as the last event!
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Post by tiroto on Feb 27, 2023 12:01:21 GMT 12
Is that her name - Annette - the lady who runs into the inside of the track once the cars are gridded up? Give her a medal!
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Post by grindingdisc on Feb 27, 2023 13:37:55 GMT 12
Awesome footage of the racing glad i didnt waste $85 to only watch half of the show, bonus dont have to listen to paul hicky
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Post by midway on Feb 27, 2023 13:58:42 GMT 12
Percy certainly gives a in depth prognosis of how he sees speedway meetings should progress and move forward . Maybe he has different coloured shoes not to trip over previous comments ,looking forward to his pink ones as that will be a cracker of explanation ,and something to look forward to ...
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Post by steelpanther on Feb 27, 2023 14:35:43 GMT 12
Apart from you Midway, is there anyone else out there that understands your comment?
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Post by midway on Feb 27, 2023 15:04:18 GMT 12
Apart from you Midway, is there anyone else out there that understands your comment? I SIMPLY DONT REALLY CARE ,WHY IT CREATES INTEREST AMONGST PEOPLE LIKE YOU FOR REPLYING ,DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
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