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Post by mordecai on Jan 11, 2016 10:09:32 GMT 12
refuse gisborne entry I wonder if the rees crew will stay there or relocate somewea so they can teams race again
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Post by Admin on Jan 11, 2016 10:10:01 GMT 12
I couldn't disagree more. The Mustangs are a reincarnation of the Palmy B team that won the very first Teams Champs in 1981. They are very much a part of the history of the event, and give a solid performance year in and year out. Exactly - "Palmy B Team". To make up numbers when they were short on teams. Gizzy's been there before - also part of the history of the event. And now have a resurgence in their club. Who cares how they make up their team - there are "S" cars in the 'P' team...Or would you prefer a Palmy C team and while you're at it, lets call it the Manawatu Superstock Teams. To be a true representation of the "NZ" Superstock Teams champs, you need a team from each province if they are willing/able to provide. You do not see a Canterbury B team playing in the NPC... This event does not claim to be a "NZ" event anywhere I can see and it's not an official SNZ championship. It's an event created by the Palmy promotion and just happens to be the most successful every year. Much as you might like to see certain teams there the promotion will decide what is best for the event to remain successful now and into the future. |
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Post by wetlabs on Jan 11, 2016 10:31:41 GMT 12
Yes, true macgor. I think it is just generally referred to as the NZ superstock teams champs, by alot of the general public. We have an NZ title for stockcars, superstocks and stockcar teams...just a general assumption I guess, that myself and others make of this event to be. You only have to google up video footage using "NZ superstock teams" to see this.. Obviously a hot topic for many. lol.  |
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Post by penman on Jan 11, 2016 10:38:06 GMT 12
I heard from Ramjam that 100% of the voices in his head told him G should be there ahead of a made up A/H team. But he also doubts a single ticket more or less would be sold based on who the 12 (+) teams in attendance are. He also told me it's wank to refer to myself in the third person but what does he know. I heard that Ramjam was adversely affected by something in the dust at Stratford this weekend. I can't tell you who I heard it from, but they assured me the person they heard it from swears it's true  Wasn't that him trackside trying to snort the pole line through a rolled-up programme?  Like anything that's promoter/track created (as opposed to SNZ-based), the owners/organisers/promoters etc have the right to refuse/accept any entry that may come in. IF there are 12 legitimate entries from teams that have supported the event in the recent past, then surely the promoters have the obligation to give them first right of refusal as to the places that are open for the event. IF this was a New Zealand title, that would be different; If there had been a successful 'qualification' for the event, that would be different; IF there had been 11 teams confirmed and THEN Gisborne was refused entry, that would be different; If it was based on a first-in, first-served basis and the G had got in an early entry and THEN been refused, that again would be different. However, it appears no-one on here knows (or is willing to reveal) the teams that have confirmed entries (even though - as always - there is PLENTY of speculation. Wouldn't be teams champs without it eh), so there is a lot of firign shots in the dark hoping that someone can hit the target. From what I have gathered over the years, 12 teams seems to be the easiest for Bruce and his team to work with when it comes to structuring this event (unless you went to 16 possibly, but can't see that EVER happening for a number of reasons). Can you possibly imagine the uproar if the Tigers, the Eagles, the Scrappers, Rebels, etc was excluded for this event in order to include a Gisborne team? Which, if there are 12 entries from teams that have supported this event previously, would need to happen to get them in. When was the last time a team of G-men attended this meeting? Rees or no Rees, G or no G, this event will continue to be one of the pinnacle events in the NZ speedway calendar. The fact that this issue raises its head, or there are conspiracy theories about the draw, the rulings at the event, or how the Panthers manage to get their hands on the trophy more often than not just shows HOW successful this event is. I do have a question though. What's to prevent Rees x 3 contracting to other teams? Never really been sure of that as a ruling.... |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 11, 2016 10:39:22 GMT 12
Yes, true macgor. I think it is just generally referred to as the NZ superstock teams champs, by alot of the general public. We have an NZ title for stockcars, superstocks and stockcar teams...just a general assumption I guess, that myself and others make of this event to be. You only have to google up video footage using "NZ superstock teams" to see this.. Obviously a hot topic for many. lol. I think people get confused as its called the nz superstock teams champs but its spelt ENZED SUPERSTOCK TEAMS CHAMPS |
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Post by The other guy on Jan 11, 2016 10:39:42 GMT 12
Did I hit a soft spot Ramjam
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Post by mordecai on Jan 11, 2016 10:42:24 GMT 12
but palmy have run 13 teams b4 |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 11, 2016 10:43:20 GMT 12
id say there wont be a gizzy team and im sure asher and pete will line up somewea prob for stratford maybe
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Post by penman on Jan 11, 2016 10:51:27 GMT 12
but palmy have run 13 teams b4 Yep, they have. And i seem to remember that caused plenty of threads on here complaining about the way that 13-team event was run What I said is that 12 is the EASIEST to organise... |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 11, 2016 11:00:51 GMT 12
but palmy have run 13 teams b4 Yep, they have. And i seem to remember that caused plenty of threads on here complaining about the way that 13-team event was run What I said is that 12 is the EASIEST to organise... yes 12 is best esp for tab betting lol |
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Post by tony27 on Jan 11, 2016 11:32:24 GMT 12
I couldn't disagree more. The Mustangs are a reincarnation of the Palmy B team that won the very first Teams Champs in 1981. They are very much a part of the history of the event, and give a solid performance year in and year out. Exactly - "Palmy B Team". To make up numbers when they were short on teams. Gizzy's been there before - also part of the history of the event. And now have a resurgence in their club. Who cares how they make up their team - there are "S" cars in the 'P' team...Or would you prefer a Palmy C team and while you're at it, lets call it the Manawatu Superstock Teams. To be a true representation of the "NZ" Superstock Teams champs, you need a team from each province if they are willing/able to provide. You do not see a Canterbury B team playing in the NPC... From what I've been told by someone connected with gisborne will be a 1 year thing with no locals getting superstocks meaning they are reliant on getting out of towners to travel to contract there |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:31:03 GMT 12
Did I hit a soft spot Ramjam No not at all, you can go back years on this board and find many postings where have asked posters saying "I've heard... " who they have heard it from. |
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Post by penman on Jan 11, 2016 12:51:55 GMT 12
Did I hit a soft spot Ramjam No not at all, you can go back years on this board and find many postings where have asked posters saying "I've heard... " who they have heard it from. Or even the one right above you |
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Post by mudman on Jan 11, 2016 12:55:14 GMT 12
Lets say all 12 teams show up and G gets left waiting in the wings. whats the big problem? there hasnt been a g based team at the event for so many years and what happens if pete has a falling out with their promotion in the near future and him and all his mates go somewhere else? we will be back to no g team. If i was bruce and co. i wouldnt be opening my arms to them after they walked out on me, i would be waiting to see if they could prove to be valued and committed gisborne club members not a flash in the pan 'were only here so we can put together our own team on our own terms' basis that could be perceived from this situation. If they proved their new love for gisborne was more then a short term thing and started teams racing outside of the big dance then by all means giants for a spot in the pits. I would love to see the giants back, but a real giants with committed gisborne club members.
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Post by jon53istockcar on Jan 11, 2016 13:24:25 GMT 12
Hi as a fan of the Stratford Srappers 1996 1997Taranaki Scrappers Stratford Gladiators 1996 1997 Nelson Tigers 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 plus Christchruch 1996 onwards Glen eagles For Many Years Watching Superstock Teams For many Years This Is New To Me and I Will Not Be Commenting Iam Just Saying Hi |
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Post by wetlabs on Jan 11, 2016 13:33:51 GMT 12
Exactly - "Palmy B Team". To make up numbers when they were short on teams. Gizzy's been there before - also part of the history of the event. And now have a resurgence in their club. Who cares how they make up their team - there are "S" cars in the 'P' team...Or would you prefer a Palmy C team and while you're at it, lets call it the Manawatu Superstock Teams. To be a true representation of the "NZ" Superstock Teams champs, you need a team from each province if they are willing/able to provide. You do not see a Canterbury B team playing in the NPC... This event does not claim to be a "NZ" event anywhere I can see and it's not an official SNZ championship. It's an event created by the Palmy promotion and just happens to be the most successful every year. Much as you might like to see certain teams there the promotion will decide what is best for the event to remain successful now and into the future. LOL. Macgor, as you are an administrator for this site you might want to edit the title of this thread. Sorry, not trying to stir the pot anymore than has been done. lol |
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Post by jon53istockcar on Jan 11, 2016 14:01:14 GMT 12
I Have a Question Can any Team Run Black But With Diferent Chassis colours Including Back In The Day Colours in the 1990s and today
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 11, 2016 14:03:32 GMT 12
any team can have any colour. a team can even have different coloured cars in it, as has happened in the past.
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Post by jon53istockcar on Jan 11, 2016 14:07:59 GMT 12
thanks does anybody know if you can run el shaped wing need to find out like they had in the 90s but bit lower to the body are the legal to run ? looking forward to Enzed Superstock Teams 2016 This Year
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 11, 2016 14:09:41 GMT 12
Its great to see a club with a team all made of that tracks registered drivers etc. For some clubs this is not possible however as drivers get injured, can't afford it or simply do not want to put themselves and machines on the line etc. We also have to remember though that Superstocks are a pretty special class and have very quickly become more professional. With professionalism comes movement of drivers, politics and teams made up of team members that may not reside in the given city/town they race for. Same as any other sport in New Zealand from regional to provisional and national competitions. We can nearly be assured that a 3rd of the teams present will have a driver in their squad form elsewhere for some reason. Its going to happen so the sooner people get over it the better. Whoever ends up in YOUR team, support them, make some noise and celebrate any success that comes your way.
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