wayne hemi (Read 12,051 times)

[mordecai]

ok last year hemi took out a bay car on the infield and mustangs were disqualified and hawkeyes given the win

this year hemi takes out a gb car onto the infied same blades of grass as last year and back onto the track and all the way into the wall this was way worse than last year but the panthers wernt disqualified just wondering why 1 team was and this team not

altho im happy they weren't disqualified as I had 50 bucks on the panthers

[57victoria]

Hemi did get stood down for this one, but that would have had no impact on the result, as opposed to last years one.

[maninstand]

hemi won the race last year so he got excluded same as this year. I know people reckon it’s bias but referees rule on this not palmy.

[hercules]

While I won’t comment on the hit and grass use as it’s been said before, and he did get penalised.

The part that probably went unnoticed was he took out a running GB car illegally, and that car didn’t move again after the hit I think, had that car finished the race he would have been 4th as only 3 others finished, and that would have given GB enough points to race in the 3rd and 4th place race against scrappers.

Although it had no impact on that race the illegal hit did have a impact overall on there finishing position.

[graemeh]

I dont think the incident was that bad actually, seemed like the hit started on the track then for maybe a second or two they went across the infield then back onto the track. Good luck to anyone whose reactions at that speed could have pulled out of the hit.

[mordecai]

Feb 7, 2018 15:17:58 GMT 12 hercules said:

While I won’t comment on the hit and grass use as it’s been said before, and he did get penalised.

The part that probably went unnoticed was he took out a running GB car illegally, and that car didn’t move again after the hit I think, had that car finished the race he would have been 4th as only 3 others finished, and that would have given GB enough points to race in the 3rd and 4th place race against scrappers.

Although it had no impact on that race the illegal hit did have a impact overall on there finishing position.

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[Deleted]

Rumour has it The Red Waka Team will now be known as the Green Waka Team sponsored by Jims Mowing .. lol..

[mordecai]

Feb 7, 2018 15:45:11 GMT 12 mordecai said:

Feb 7, 2018 15:17:58 GMT 12 hercules said:

While I won’t comment on the hit and grass use as it’s been said before, and he did get penalised.

The part that probably went unnoticed was he took out a running GB car illegally, and that car didn’t move again after the hit I think, had that car finished the race he would have been 4th as only 3 others finished, and that would have given GB enough points to race in the 3rd and 4th place race against scrappers.

Although it had no impact on that race the illegal hit did have a impact overall on there finishing position.

maybe they need to disqualify any sort of shots like this and set a solid line in the sand and I bet people will stop doing it

[Jeffery]

Feb 7, 2018 15:45:43 GMT 12 @highrevz said:

Rumour has it The Red Waka Team will now be known as the Green Waka Team sponsored by Jims Mowing .. lol..

Hilarious....

[mordecai]

Feb 7, 2018 15:01:14 GMT 12 57victoria said:

Hemi did get stood down for this one, but that would have had no impact on the result, as opposed to last years one.

how long is the stand down

[hercules]

They did interview the ref after race and he said since the attack wasn’t on a lead GB car that’s the reason for exclusion and stand down. He said had attack been on lead GB car it would have been a total different story.

To me that’s wrong, any attack on any of the 4 opposition cars should be dealt with the same and punished the same. You don’t change penalty rulings in rugby or league if 1 team is 30 points behind with 5 mins to go.

Had the attack not happened Panthers would have still won easily, but GB might have got the points to race Stratford for 3rd and retain a seeding for next years event.

[mordecai]

Feb 7, 2018 16:02:34 GMT 12 hercules said:

They did interview the ref after race and he said since the attack wasn’t on a lead GB car that’s the reason for exclusion and stand down. He said had attack been on lead GB car it would have been a total different story.

To me that’s wrong, any attack on any of the 4 opposition cars should be dealt with the same and punished the same. You don’t change penalty rulings in rugby or league if 1 team is 30 points behind with 5 mins to go.

Had the attack not happened Panthers would have still won easily, but GB might have got the points to race Stratford for 3rd and retain a seeding for next years event.

and its also 2 years in a row on the same blades of grass which is very disappointing

[Admin]

Feb 7, 2018 15:23:34 GMT 12 graemeh said:

I dont think the incident was that bad actually, seemed like the hit started on the track then for maybe a second or two they went across the infield then back onto the track. Good luck to anyone whose reactions at that speed could have pulled out of the hit.

Yes, and not many commenters have mentioned 591p's front wheels were up on the other car's side rail the entire time so no steering.

[mordecai]

Feb 7, 2018 16:05:50 GMT 12 Admin said:

Feb 7, 2018 15:23:34 GMT 12 graemeh said:

I dont think the incident was that bad actually, seemed like the hit started on the track then for maybe a second or two they went across the infield then back onto the track. Good luck to anyone whose reactions at that speed could have pulled out of the hit.

Yes, and not many commenters have mentioned 591p's front wheels were up on the other car's side rail the entire time so no steering.

yes that is true but his back wheels were spinning very fast indeed no signs of any effort to brake

[hbhornets]

Then if you start talking about but that great Britain car having an effect. You then need to go back to tarrant exclusion. Which hasn't been talked about here at all. And one that lefthim pissed off. Right results. I feel the teams finished in fair positions all the way down. Hemi got punished and different cars have different jobs. Remember only one car has the job to win. So harsher penalties must apply for illegally taking them out. Otherwise jack Miers would be better off taking out long illegally. Leaving gisborune without there runner and panthers causing to victory. See my point ? (I know miers wouldn't do that)

[Admin]

Feb 7, 2018 16:33:51 GMT 12 mordecai said:

Feb 7, 2018 16:05:50 GMT 12 Admin said:

Yes, and not many commenters have mentioned 591p's front wheels were up on the other car's side rail the entire time so no steering.

yes that is true but his back wheels were spinning very fast indeed no signs of any effort to brake

and that's why he was pinged, a split second error. referee made the call quite rightly.
Done and dusted

[stu24p]

Feb 7, 2018 16:33:51 GMT 12 mordecai said:

Feb 7, 2018 16:05:50 GMT 12 Admin said:

Yes, and not many commenters have mentioned 591p's front wheels were up on the other car's side rail the entire time so no steering.

yes that is true but his back wheels were spinning very fast indeed no signs of any effort to brake

Some other things to ponder. With Hemi's car up on the GB car, what visibilty did Wayne have? He did turn right a few metres before impact. Secondly, with a superstock running laps at around 18 seconds, how many metres are they covering per second? And yes, he was running at pace. I've worked it out for you, it's 23.94 metres per second. So how far can you travel before you realise you are not where you thought you were?

[stu24p]

As eluded to in an above post, Tarrant got excluded from a race result. Also in a GB race, the red light was turned on and FWJ sent to the infield for attacking while over the poleline. That's 3 penalties I know of. In the first race I saw 2 pole line infringments on turn 1 in the 1st two laps. How many times do they blow the whistle in a rugby match.

[totspete]

Defend 591 all you like ... but why is it, year after year, the same driver committing variations of the same offence? Are the sight lines in his car that much worse than anyone elses? Is his car travelling that much faster than every other one that he can't react to being 3m inside the pole line because of the speed involved? A couple of seasons back 84N incurred significant cost through fire damage on a hit that was marginal at best. Last year, there was a penalty applied and the 591 lawnmower memes came out again. I really thought some kind of lesson would be absorbed this time but, again, an opposing car was heavily impacted with consequences for the GB team and we are meant to believe that this is just repeated bad luck and driver bashing? If Peter B was always being lined up to return for the final, then Wayne was most likely the reserve anyway. If his exclusion, having wrecked the GB car, was always part of the plan, then I bow to some superior tactics. Well played.

[southsuperstock]

Feb 7, 2018 16:02:34 GMT 12 hercules said:

They did interview the ref after race and he said since the attack wasn’t on a lead GB car that’s the reason for exclusion and stand down. He said had attack been on lead GB car it would have been a total different story.

To me that’s wrong, any attack on any of the 4 opposition cars should be dealt with the same and punished the same. You don’t change penalty rulings in rugby or league if 1 team is 30 points behind with 5 mins to go.

Had the attack not happened Panthers would have still won easily, but GB might have got the points to race Stratford for 3rd and retain a seeding for next years event.

What a load of rubbish, i'd bet you wont find this rule in the teams race manual, massive grey area, depending if your lead car or last car gets taken out illegaly depends on the punishment to the offending driver, what BS, the biggest meeting on the calendar, this is the best the referee comes up with??

Well said totspete, seen it before, not just with the car in question either, depends what letter you have on your wing