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Post by BarryB on Feb 22, 2023 19:26:56 GMT 12
Who's gunna be first to mention the W word, and I'm not talking winner! OK I will WELLINGTON Wins Wonce again Waikato Won Wonce tWo Barry B |
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Post by graemeh on Feb 22, 2023 19:27:35 GMT 12
Race 3 Otago Outlaws V Wellington Young Guns
Race 4 Canterbury Crushers V Kihikihi Kings
Race 5 Rotorua Rascals V Waikato Raiders
Race 6 Wanganui Vulcans V Stratford Stormers
Race 7 Auckland Alley Cats V Palmerston North Pumas
Race 10 Otago Outlaws V Kihikihi Kings
Race 11 Wellington Young Guns V Canterbury Crushers
Race 12 Rotorua Rascal V Stratford Stormers
Race 13 Waikato Raiders V Stratford Stormers
Race 14 Wanganui Vulcans V Palmerston North Pumas
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 22, 2023 19:38:21 GMT 12
Stratford can't be in race 12 and 13. Auck maybe in one of those?
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Post by BarryB on Feb 22, 2023 19:41:42 GMT 12
Stratford can't be in race 12 and 13. Auck maybe in one of those? I only caught the very tail end of the draw, but I'm sure I heard a Waikato vs Auckland mentioned. Barry B |
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Post by Tapped on Feb 22, 2023 19:42:44 GMT 12
Stratford can't be in race 12 and 13. Auck maybe in one of those? Alley cats in race 13. ie H vs A.  |
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Post by wildcatsfan on Feb 22, 2023 19:46:58 GMT 12
Round 1
Outlaws v Young Guns
Crushers v Kings
Rascals v Raiders
Vulcans v Stormers
Alleycays v Pumas
Round 2
Outlaws v Kings
Young Guns v Crushers
Rascals v Stormers
Raiders v Alleycats
Vulcans v Pumas
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 22, 2023 20:26:12 GMT 12
I note that the format is different this year, only 4 teams have a chance of winning this event, with a palmy style format, I liked the top 8 into the finals,1v8,2v7 3v6 etc. Who makes the call on which format is used??  . |
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Post by Palmyfan4ever on Feb 22, 2023 20:46:09 GMT 12
I note that the format is different this year, only 4 teams have a chance of winning this event, with a palmy style format, I liked the top 8 into the finals,1v8,2v7 3v6 etc. Who makes the call on which format is used?? . The event organizers generally I believe. While this is a SNZ title event there are some rules that the title holders (track) can adjust. Ie it used to be 5 cars on the track racing in the race, wgtn loved that format, when they lost the title one of the following tracks dropped it to the 4 car race format. No track has put it back to 5 cars racing. So while some race rules are set in stone some rules the track can decide this suits us better |
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Post by Driftwood on Feb 22, 2023 20:51:03 GMT 12
Don't want to say the 'R' word, but the draw wouldn't be R....D WOULD IT ?
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Post by midway on Feb 22, 2023 21:21:17 GMT 12
I don’t know why the southern teams didn’t send their cars last week and have somewhere north of the straight babysit them for a week. Would’ve saved all this drama. I’m sure there’s plenty of speedway folk with yard space to take a car or two, huntly may have even let them be stored in the pits. Just leave your sunglasses on when the sun goes down ,and you may find just how many still have them on after midnight Get the drift  |
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Post by grindingdisc on Feb 22, 2023 21:30:06 GMT 12
OK I will WELLINGTON Wins Wonce again Waikato Won Wonce tWo Barry B Wain wain go away, come again some other day |
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 22, 2023 21:45:36 GMT 12
I note that the format is different this year, only 4 teams have a chance of winning this event, with a palmy style format, I liked the top 8 into the finals,1v8,2v7 3v6 etc. Who makes the call on which format is used?? . The event organizers generally I believe. While this is a SNZ title event there are some rules that the title holders (track) can adjust. Ie it used to be 5 cars on the track racing in the race, wgtn loved that format, when they lost the title one of the following tracks dropped it to the 4 car race format. No track has put it back to 5 cars racing. So while some race rules are set in stone some rules the track can decide this suits us better Alot has to do with numbers. Every teams racing event was 6 car teams 5 on track. Not just nzs. The Peter Barry used to be 6 car teams and 5 on track. Getting up to 10 teams once even having 12 teams. However the fall of stockcar teams racing with bringing in the one car non contracted driver. In the last 12 years have seen the fall of the top of the south both Blenheim and Nelson losing there stock car teams. Gisbourne has been up and down after building a strong team. Baypark don't even have the numbers to run stockcars now bills in there. And if we went to 6 car teams we would have even less teams then we did in the hayday. And that hayday didnt even include and kihi kihi team at rotorua when everything changed thanks to the canterbury crushes. 6 car teams 4 on track at that champs. I believe it was auckland that ran it at 5 car teams 4 on track and hasn't changed since then. And if they were to go to 6 i feel many tracks would struggle. Even the Peter Barry's are capped at 5 car teams these days and getting 8 teams to that event. I don't know emwhats going on with stockcar teams racing and why it's dying. But it is. Is it down to the growth of superstock racing I don't know. Of the major stockcar team events only the palmy teams invasion seems to be holding up currently. With huntlys gone. What this means for future nz titles I don't know. But as a fan it has me worried abit. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 22, 2023 22:15:52 GMT 12
Yes, Rotorua ran 6 car teams/4 on track because they ran a great format that did have 8 teams still left alive going into the second night, but that means doing three races on the second night instead of the normal two, hence the two reserve cars to help avoid any lopsided races on Night 2.
Baypark ran 7 cars, but I cant remember now whether it was 8 car teams/7 on track or 7 car teams/6 on track. I think it was 7 on track per race. It's a bit disappointing that they don't run 5 on track at the NZ title anymore. The extra two cars (10 instead of 8) helped with the spectacle but now they run the same numbers as Superstocks in my mind decreases from the spectacle the Stockcars used to offer. 5 cars per side racing was a point of difference, because with the same amount of cars on track as the Superstocks it kinda looks the same but without the glorious noise from the Supers. I think maybe the teams should be 6 cars/5 on track but an allowance for two ring-ins? Not really sure, but it might add to the spectacle without putting extra pressure on clubs/teams to find the numbers locally. I do think limiting the ring-ins is a good idea with it being an SNZ allocated title however. Clubs entering as many as 3 teams detracted from the integrity of the event in the early "non-official" days.
I imagine Huntly's annual event may return if and when they lose the official NZ title. They wouldn't want to be running to Stockcar teams meetings in the same season.
Barry B
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Post by BarryB on Feb 22, 2023 22:32:20 GMT 12
I note that the format is different this year, only 4 teams have a chance of winning this event, with a palmy style format, I liked the top 8 into the finals,1v8,2v7 3v6 etc. Who makes the call on which format is used?? . I like it with 8 teams still alive too, but it does mean that the two teams in the final are on their third race of the night come the final, which means, unless you're running 6 car teams/4 on track, the final, the main race, would often become a non-event due to uneven numbers of cars lining up, or teams fielding 4 cars but only one or two left in fit shape. 5 car teams would help though, as 4 vs 5 is still a more competitive balance than 3 vs 4. Barry B |
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Post by mudman on Feb 23, 2023 6:42:00 GMT 12
I was a big fan of Rotorua’s 6 cars 4 on track. Gave the safety net of having 2 spare drivers and cars if something major happened. Also gave a fun strategic challenge having 2 extra drivers you could have a very different line up race to race with a stronger focus on blockers or runner depending on who you put out.
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Post by d1dazza on Feb 23, 2023 7:43:15 GMT 12
Stratford can't be in race 12 and 13. Auck maybe in one of those? Alley cats in race 13. ie H vs A. at least the south island teams don't have to race each other for a change |
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Post by grindingdisc on Feb 23, 2023 11:44:36 GMT 12
People make a fuss about the south island teams racing eachother when the north island teams have to do it all the time cause the south island teams barley enter lol
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Post by grindingdisc on Feb 23, 2023 15:25:43 GMT 12
I hate to ask the question but.. whats huntlys rain out plan for this weekend friday doesnt look good
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Post by mudman on Feb 23, 2023 16:31:30 GMT 12
I hate to ask the question but.. whats huntlys rain out plan for this weekend friday doesnt look good Just gonna run it Monday morning before work after everyone has gone home…. Back 2 back 2 back Champions!!! #3peat |
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Post by turnright on Feb 23, 2023 16:44:41 GMT 12
I hate to ask the question but.. whats huntlys rain out plan for this weekend friday doesnt look good There we go, you win a chocolate fish!! Good question though, I'm assuming sat and early.start Sunday, that's just my stab in the dark! |
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