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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2014 17:57:08 GMT 12
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Post by specks on Feb 10, 2014 18:09:39 GMT 12
Oh thats all positive stuff.. Was good.to see someone got.an apology and having the registered numbers idea is great I sit there and look up the programme half the night! Bruce seems to know how to.make things happen even if it means taking a.back step.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 10, 2014 19:01:19 GMT 12
I hope the quote in the paper is wrong about the Team Nats in Auckland in 4 weeks time featuring the number changes however. I think that'll confuse fans even more if all of the team cars have to change their numbers between the 2 meetings, especially considering their close proximity on the calendar. I would have thought over the winter months would have made more sense.......
I also wish somebody had launched an attack on the Stockcar team numbers first, especially the 3 digit ones and more especially Auckland's and Rotorua's (353, 533, 535, 833, 383, 338 blah blah blah). I could get my head around teams running sequential 2-digit numbers alright, but not the mixed up 3-digit ones. Maybe this move will start a positive trend however......
Now if we can just get a register of team body colours up and running as well so we get no direct clashes, we'll start to look really good as a sport.
Good work Bruce.
Barry B
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Post by m8sr8z on Feb 10, 2014 19:22:36 GMT 12
Think it's a crap idea. How hard is it if you know your sport of Superstocks to look in a program and/or know via web or previous years to remember drivers team numbers for the night. Quote Superstocks not stockcars.
If a team wants to look like a TEAM and have team numbers one after the other then good on them. Isn't the event TEAMS champs? Not racing for yourself with a body the same as the other guy.
Stockcars numbers on the other hand is to make it difficult for the other team to quickly know what car number your after. Which is part of the game of teams racing. They have no intension of making sure some people know who they are.
At the end of the day your cheering on a team. Maybe have a good sleep the night before may help. It's teams racing for most teams four times a year give them the vote as they are putting on the display.
My 3.79 cents anyway. It's what a forums for.
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Post by ariana on Feb 10, 2014 19:27:22 GMT 12
I agree team numbers are fine except the 3 digit ones they just annoying as a spectator
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2014 19:33:25 GMT 12
I hope the quote in the paper is wrong about the Team Nats in Auckland in 4 weeks time featuring the number changes however. I think that'll confuse fans even more if all of the team cars have to change their numbers between the 2 meetings, especially considering their close proximity on the calendar. I would have thought over the winter months would have made more sense....... I also wish somebody had launched an attack on the Stockcar team numbers first, especially the 3 digit ones and more especially Auckland's and Rotorua's (353, 533, 535, 833, 383, 338 blah blah blah). I could get my head around teams running sequential 2-digit numbers alright, but not the mixed up 3-digit ones. Maybe this move will start a positive trend however...... Now if we can just get a register of team body colours up and running as well so we get no direct clashes, we'll start to look really good as a sport. Good work Bruce. Barry B The sooner the better for me and most fans too I reckon , no one I know has ever adjusted to the teams numbers so dropping them won't be a bother. The Teams colour register has long been my wish. |
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Post by Ben Biggs on Feb 10, 2014 19:36:18 GMT 12
Team numbers are fine... if you are a big enough speedway freak you know who is what team number more often than not. What about numbers that clash? Id rather see the Tigers as 82, 83, 84, 85, 86 than 186, 85, 18, 14(??), 46. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Post by m8sr8z on Feb 10, 2014 19:41:37 GMT 12
I hope the quote in the paper is wrong about the Team Nats in Auckland in 4 weeks time featuring the number changes however. I think that'll confuse fans even more if all of the team cars have to change their numbers between the 2 meetings, especially considering their close proximity on the calendar. I would have thought over the winter months would have made more sense....... I also wish somebody had launched an attack on the Stockcar team numbers first, especially the 3 digit ones and more especially Auckland's and Rotorua's (353, 533, 535, 833, 383, 338 blah blah blah). I could get my head around teams running sequential 2-digit numbers alright, but not the mixed up 3-digit ones. Maybe this move will start a positive trend however...... Now if we can just get a register of team body colours up and running as well so we get no direct clashes, we'll start to look really good as a sport. Good work Bruce. Barry B The sooner the better for me and most fans too I reckon , no one I know has ever adjusted to the teams numbers so dropping them won't be a bother. The Teams colour register has long been my wish. Team colours is a great idea. Numbers should be drivers/teams wish. Garry P said do battles on track not off it and this subject should be the same. Seems like the refs/non drivers are making the calls |
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2014 19:47:07 GMT 12
The sooner the better for me and most fans too I reckon , no one I know has ever adjusted to the teams numbers so dropping them won't be a bother. The Teams colour register has long been my wish. Team colours is a great idea. Numbers should be drivers/teams wish. Garry P said do battles on track not off it and this subject should be the same. Seems like the refs/non drivers are making the calls Us lot ay , we're only the paying customers and them officials, well they've just got nothing better to do with their time. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 10, 2014 19:57:43 GMT 12
Team numbers are fine... if you are a big enough speedway freak you know who is what team number more often than not. And therein lies the problem for mine.....we want our sport to appeal to others outside of the "speedway freak" category. That began in the 1992/93 season when the Todd & Pollock team first appeared with matching bodywork, followed 12 months later by the Statford Scrappers and over the years by every team in the country. Lesser speedway fans could suddenly understand teams racing more easily, and the more you understand the bigger fan you're likely to become. Numbers are another step in the right direction.....It's quite simple really...... Let's do it on the terracotta, Barry B |
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 10, 2014 20:37:25 GMT 12
So 1, 2, 3nz will run those numbers or their registered number
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 20:46:53 GMT 12
Colour register yes, numbers no.
Which teams have been constantly changing numbers over the last few years? None that I can think of.
What happens if there is a clash across teams of the same number? They will have to change by putting a 1 infront?
Teams bodies and teams numbers should stay as they are, thats part and parcel of teams racing now, it ain't broke and doesn't need tampering with.
Will running track registered numbers provide an advantage to racers who perhaps are not quite as good at reading a race....I think it will....a big portion of being a decent teams racer is the ability to read the race not just a number.
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Post by conrod on Feb 10, 2014 20:56:52 GMT 12
All drivers even more so the good ones that carry there club numbers and reg-club are long remembered, Any keen follower given a name would most likely tell you his number ,Teams numbers just make a mock off reputations off who is driving a specific car ,and who is making the hits or even who is leading a given race Because its a mess to keep up with new numbers by the time you make out who they are !!! to late something else has happened ,if you are 1,2,or three NZ i want to see that car /driver number not number 9 or any other ,Trying to hide your driver behind other numbers i dont think fools any off the drivers at these teams meets they no whos who ,and if you dont they will soon remind you exactly who just hammered you ,
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Post by potentmix on Feb 10, 2014 21:01:24 GMT 12
For me, I would prefer no numbers, just team colours, or a collective team number. It's about the team, not the individual.
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Post by Ben Biggs on Feb 10, 2014 21:12:41 GMT 12
And then there is matching chassis colours! LOL
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Post by matthew7 on Feb 10, 2014 21:13:46 GMT 12
It would be way better, I had to keep looking in programme for every person number
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Post by tank11 on Feb 10, 2014 21:34:30 GMT 12
Team colours are the first thing that need changing, then each team could be assigned a set of numbers.
But with 12 teams means we are going into 3 digit numbers anyway.
So I would make the sequential.
Palmy have theirs by right 1-9, BP 11-19, HB 31-39, etc
The other teams that run the mixed bag would have to choose later.
It is teams not individual racing, so keep them separate.
Pete Rees is 10p but 5p teams racing, oh but Asher jumped into his car.
Quick sign write the car to 126p now.
Honestly, it's not that hard to read a programme, and half the time you have to write the changes in from the last week anyways.
Concussion, child birth, work, death, injuries etc have a bearing on who FINALLY gets to race.
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Post by iaccelerate on Feb 10, 2014 21:39:29 GMT 12
I think it has its positives, but that always comes with negatives.
Making it that tiny bit easier to figure out who the driver is before you potentially nail the person not running (if that makes sense) might help.
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Post by supastocknut on Feb 10, 2014 21:52:23 GMT 12
Man....why did the All Blacks not think of this. imagine each player with a mask on and hard to read numbers at a quick glance!!! FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!! but follow their local cars and major meetings so have an idea on who some of the drivers are. Now change that via number and body colour, the average person is now confused!! in my book this is NOT a good thing for our sport! Registered numbers is a must and agree that it is time paint scemes for teams are registered also!
Teams racing is a major part in growing what could be a cash cow for our sport if marketed correctly. fast, hard hitting action with nuts loads of drama!!!
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Post by m8sr8z on Feb 10, 2014 22:08:38 GMT 12
Man....why did the All Blacks not think of this. imagine each player with a mask on and hard to read numbers at a quick glance!!! FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!! but follow their local cars and major meetings so have an idea on who some of the drivers are. Now change that via number and body colour, the average person is now confused!! in my book this is NOT a good thing for our sport! Registered numbers is a must and agree that it is time paint scemes for teams are registered also! Teams racing is a major part in growing what could be a cash cow for our sport if marketed correctly. fast, hard hitting action with nuts loads of drama!!! FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!!  ? MATE how about u stop being selfish and let these drivers and teams run TEAM numbers for a couple of bloody times a year. It's only a couple of times. Selfish on both sides you think? If I go to watch teams racing and let's say Wellington, I'm not there to watch one driver in the Wellington side, I'm there to watch the team. If one person wants to go watch Malcolm N from Chch race at a teams event and only Mal, they need to find out which number he is. Program or listen to the people on the mic and they can continue knowing that one drivers number change. |
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